Decisions.. G19 gen 5 or Wilson/Sig P320

Oh gosh my bad…yep that’s the guy. I wasn’t aware he shot himself in the foot as well. That’s bad enough, but terrible that it happened in a classroom full of kids!
 
Been thinking about the issue of pricey gun being vulnerable to loss (or at least damage) in a "hot" situation if the need arose to use it....Stacatto, Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, etc are all players albeit at the higher end of the spectrum and many of those are carried or purchased for some sort of "duty". While I don't relish the thought of having to "throw down your weapon" (oh that's a terrible sound!) or have it disappear during an investigation if I ever HAVE to use it in defense, it's a risk that might be mitigated a different choice for that; but I'm not going to let the fear of "what if" keep me from owning one and enjoying it. But it's a very good and prudent thought. Thanks again!!
 
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Been thinking about the issue of pricey gun being vulnerable to loss (or at least damage) in a "hot" situation if the need arose to use it....Stacatto, Wilson Combat, Nighthawk, etc are all players albeit at the higher end of the spectrum and many of those are carried or purchased for some sort of "duty". While I don't relish the thought of having to "throw down your weapon" (oh that's a terrible sound!) or have it disappear during an investigation if I ever HAVE to use it in defense, it's a risk that might be mitigated a different choice for that; but I'm not going to let the fear of "what if" keep me from owning one and enjoying it. But it's a very good and prudent thought. Thanks again!!
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If I am forced to defend my life with a firearm.... any firearm (even an expensive one), the LAST thing I care about is whether I might lose that expensive firearm as a result.

"Damn... I lost that expensive parachute when it sank in the water after it saved my life from a plane falling out of the sky." ;)
 
Update… stopped my by LGS a few days ago, they sold me a brand-new OEM Glock LCI extractor AND bearing…for 8 bucks out the door… love it. So much for paying 12-15 just for the extractor online PLUS shipping….but the reason I’m wasting your time with this post is twofold.

First, they made me aware that, apparently the P320 trigger STILL isn’t sorted, they told me a guy who shoots competition recently had his hands in the air, no clothing or any kind of interference with the pistol or holster, and while his hands were in the air with a holstered gun, the gun went off. I’M ASSUMING he had an upgraded/recall trigger. They also informed me that, as I had also mentioned the P365, that the early ones also had trigger issues, but those have been solved effectively it seems for the P365.

Second thing is…OEM GLOCK PERFORMANCE TRIGGER…I got to try one out. OH. MY. STARS.
First tried a NIB normal Glock 19 gen5…just as we all expect with that. Mush, sizeable take up, everything Glock is known for in their factory trigger. I will say the box-stock Gen 5 trigger IS better than the Gen3, but still typical Glock.

Then I was handed another personal Glock (unloaded) that one of the shop salesmen has, with the Glock Performance Trigger installed. I’m not sure if it was the tuning/tweaking of the connector, or which connector he was using- I didn’t ask…maybe it was just the virtue of said product itself, but I was stunned. It was, by far THE most 1911-like trigger in a Glock platform I’d ever experienced...very UN-Glock-like. The takeup was so mimimalized, no mush or creep, and an ultra-clean break. I cycled the action again for a second helping. The same. Yes, please.

On my latest GST9 build, I have the Overwatch Precision PolyDAT, with the polished bar, NP3 coated minus connector, and upgraded trigger spring….mine has a bit of take-up & creep on first shot, then a crisp break; and if you ride the reset you get very, VERY nice crisp following shots that are, if I may say so, superb.

This GLOCK Performance Trigger virtually emulates that from first shot, on. Nothing impressive with its usual minimalist Glock aesthetic, but that’s a nothingburger once you fire it. MUST HAVE THIS TRIGGER.

I’d go so far to say that the break on this particular pistol, was ultra-close to my commander-sized 1911 that I had a little love given to the trigger some years ago….that sidearm, by the way, I’d sold to my dad when I was in a pinch the prior decade with the understanding that I’d get first right of refusal if he sold it (I’d buy it back in a heartbeat) …he told me two days ago he doesn’t have it anymore, that or the TZ99 I sold him when times were ultra-tough. I thought he’d keep them, as money isn’t a problem with him. Both are gone. Cest La vie…

Anyways, I LIKE the new Glock Perfomance Trigger, and see no reason as to why you couldn’t use it in your EDC sidearm. It’s not too light, but it’s crisp and sure. Y’all might give it serious consideration if you’re not wanting extra bling with your thing and simply seek a far better trigger than factory issue Glock. My guess is the pull weight was north of 4.5 pounds, and might be right at 5; but to quote Nacho Libre, “eeess niiiiiice.”

The finish on the gen5’s is attractive in an ‘all business’ sort of way. Some say it’s less durable than the former. I dunno but overall, it looks GOOD, albeit still the slab side Glock design language. Lol

It looks like the G19 gen5 has pole position in my quest (P365 is a second consideration now), and if wanting more capacity, a G17 mag w/XGrip, or the G19 mags we have with the 5-round extensions will be fine when concealment isn’t a consideration. Thanks!
 
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Told ya! lol. And you had just the Glock OEM trigger in your hands (you did not say it was upgraded). If you add the Johnny Glock enhancements it's actually more better!!

My G26 is my EDC now and I splurged and got the whole JG treatment, his Vex shoe, his polish work and the Glock OEM + connector, I don't want a competition trigger on my EDC. Glad you got to try one without having to shell out the shekels for an unknown product. Now go get one. :cool:

P.S. I went with the G26 for my EDC because ... not that the G19 isn't concealable, but the G26 is more so when you need it, but you can turn it into a G19, effectively, by adding a G19 magazine and an Xgrip. Or keep it G26 in the holster, but a G19 (or 17) mag carried offside with (or without) an Xgrip. A G19 is fine, but the G26 is more versatile, IMO, for an EDC gun.

P.P.S. I have the Glock OEM +2 extension on the OEM mag, forgot to say that. Makes it much more pleasant to shoot and no less concealable. I have the Magpul 12 rounders, also, but when I found the Glock OEM extensions in stock,I got them. 100% Glock OEM except for the Vex trigger shoe for total reliability.
 
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AFWIW…I have a 26 clone, that sucker is so accurate and has a great trigger (RP VexF3 shoe with all oem Glock trigger components); Rook Dimpled Pins & Smooth Operator Safety Plunger; also use the Strike Industries EMP+2 extensions, and also have the XGrip for them that uses G15 mags.
I do have one OEM G26 12-round mag but I don’t like their extension and I’m trying to figure out how to get that sucker off to replace it with another SI EMP+2. The SI grip extensions are covered in "talon grip" material to give some traction & continuity with the rest of the grip.

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"And you had just the Glock OEM trigger in your hands (you did not say it was upgraded). If you add the Johnny Glock enhancements it's actually more better!!"

This Performance Trigger I tried was installed in another salesman's Glock, FWIW, that had been upgraded from the regular Glock-mush trigger setup. I'm sorry if I'm not understanding your comment, and perhaps my initial remark wasn't clear- if that's the case, I apologize. I edited that comment for clarity.
 
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No you’re fine. My point was the OEM performance trigger is great! It’s even better with the vex shoe and polish. I like the + connector, but I don’t like very light triggers.
 
JCinPA said:
No you’re fine. My point was the OEM performance trigger is great! It’s even better with the vex shoe and polish. I like the + connector, but I don’t like very light triggers.
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I like a nice, crisp break. No mush. Not too light. I was pretty stunned with the G Performance Trigger. We have Ranger Proof, Overwatch, TangoDown/Vickers; and while I can't fault any of them at all, and the OP may be my overall favorite (as a package, not just the shoe) of the three we have...well shoot my VexF3 setup in the one I showed ya above, is doggone good, too...but the OEM performance trigger with the Glock polymer Flat face shoe is what I'd put in a new G19, hands-down. Thx, JC!
 
Checked-out the G19 Gen5 MOS....does anybody know if the milled RDS pocket is a particular "fit" on its own; or do you have to use one of those adapter plates regardless which footprint you choose? I need to check out th eGlock site closer as all I saw was (or maybe I misread it) that they supply an adapter plate for four (IIRC) different footprints.


Like to go this direction if that milled pocket is RMR ....I'll go look and see if I can get some clarity on the MOS system. Much better than a speedy after-sale milling/refinish, or a replacement slide...
 
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Checked-out the G19 Gen5 MOS....does anybody know if the milled RDS pocket is a particular "fit" on its own; or do you have to use one of those adapter plates regardless which footprint you choose? I need to check out th eGlock site closer as all I saw was (or maybe I misread it) that they supply an adapter plate for four (IIRC) different footprints.


Like to go this direction if that milled pocket is RMR ....I'll go look and see if I can get some clarity on the MOS system. Much better than a speedy after-sale milling/refinish, or a replacement slide...
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My understanding is that the MOS mill is a proprietary design, which then comes with various adapter plates for the various RDS footprints on the market. Holosun makes one specific RDS model that is a direct fit to the Glock MOS slide (without an adapter).
 
JCinPA said:
No you’re fine. My point was the OEM performance trigger is great! It’s even better with the vex shoe and polish. I like the + connector, but I don’t like very light triggers.
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Can the OEM Performance Trigger be made to work with a P80 G26? The Glock website says it's for Gen 5 only and P80s are Gen 3.

If it needs to be modified to work, what do you do?

Thx.
 
Oof. I love the trigger, but the trigger group is different enough I doubt it could be modified. E-mail Glock, they’re pretty good about replying. The new ones are popular enough they may want to make them for the 3.
 
Neither choice is for me. While I am a Glock supporter, I’ll probably never own a gen5. Gen3s are still available around here in Alabama. Gen5 changed too much for me. Ambi slide stop, dual recoil spring, reconfigured trigger bar are all unnecessary for me.
 
I have gen 5 trigger housings & trigger bars with gen 3 Apex or Tango Down trigger shoes in most of my builds. I don't see why the Glock performance trigger could not be made to work in a gen 3. Does anybody have part numbers for the performance trigger setup? It sounds like something worth trying.
 
I am intrigued. Midway has them in stock so I ordered 1.

www.midwayusa.com

Glock Performance Flat Faced Trigger

The Glock Performance Trigger meets a different set of criteria for those looking for a lighter trigger pull and ergonomics in a performance setting,...
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Alex said:
I am intrigued. Midway has them in stock so I ordered 1.

www.midwayusa.com

Glock Performance Flat Faced Trigger

The Glock Performance Trigger meets a different set of criteria for those looking for a lighter trigger pull and ergonomics in a performance setting,...
www.midwayusa.com www.midwayusa.com
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If you're seeking to try and make this work in a P80 frame, thanks for taking one for the team. I will be eager to see how it works out.
The whole trigger selection process appears to be like a lottery match and you hope you land on the right numbers. Same with holsters if a firearm has accessories attached.
 
My go-to non-OEM trigger is Serpico Performance. Reasonable price, fast shipping.

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SERPICO PERFORMANCE® WHEN PERFECTION JUST ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH
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