between monolithic lead, monolithic copper, and jacketed bullets, which bullet retains their weight the best and does not disintegrate when hitting a

The only ones on the grass are the shooter and the RSO. The shooter loads just before he/she begins the stage. Haven't seen any NDs yet... 🤞

Missed my point. :)

The message I'm getting by your description is: "Come over here to practice negligent discharges. It's 'safer' to practice incompetence over here on the grass."
 
Missed my point. :)

The message I'm getting by your description is: "Come over here to practice negligent discharges. It's 'safer' to practice incompetence over here on the grass."
The rules are for the intelligence/skill encumbered. Considering about 75% of those of us that show for Action Pistol are RSOs, it is unlikely we will be "practicing incompetence", whatever that means... :rolleyes:

In related AP news, here is 85yo Larry ringing steel efficiently with a 9mm 1911. He has probably forgotten more about building 1911s than we'll EVER know... :D This stage involved drawing while approaching the barrels and engaging the 4 plates, 2 on either side, closest first (1 out of view) from cover of the barrels. At least 2 shots per. Larry is a little wobbly so he is assisted by his son John (in blue) who while a shooter, chooses not to shoot as he has property he can shoot and hunt on. He brings his dad to the AP out of love for him... 🥹

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The rules are for the intelligence/skill encumbered. Considering about 75% of those of us that show for Action Pistol are RSOs, it is unlikely we will be "practicing incompetence", whatever that means... :rolleyes:

In related AP news, here is 85yo Larry ringing steel efficiently with a 9mm 1911. He has probably forgotten more about building 1911s than we'll EVER know... :D This stage involved drawing while approaching the barrels and engaging the 4 plates, 2 on either side, closest first (1 out of view) from cover of the barrels. At least 2 shots per. Larry is a little wobbly so he is assisted by his son John (in blue) who while a shooter, chooses not to shoot as he has property he can shoot and hunt on. He brings his dad to the AP out of love for him... 🥹

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My point is that it's seemingly contradictory that they're planning for NDs. "Have an ND here, not there." It's just how it strikes me... right or wrong. I'm sure I'm misinterpreting it. It just sounds funny to me.
 
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My point is that it's sad (and contradictory) that they're planning for NDs. "Have an ND here, not there." It's just how it strikes me... right or wrong. It just sounds funny to me.

The past/current "leadership" has been very safety-oriented/lawsuit-averse, understandably. JJ (in red above, behind Larry) has been squeezing money from them to get more steel and so on. On the grass is the only way they will allow drawing from a holster so that is how we do it. We got about 30 carwash soap barrels donated last month. He put some of them to use this month building this "hallway" and "funnel of death" shown. :)

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