Building a Shotgun Memory!

I don't know if anyone builds shotguns, or if this sub-forum was even needed.

But, I'm going to stick this here as a placeholder for the sub-forum! I told the story on the old MGB forum once before.

When I was 16, my family moved back to the "south" US (after 11 years overseas). I was an impressionable high-schooler, and I couldn't help noticing everyone had guns. AT SCHOOL (in the parking lot, in their trucks).

So, I had to get a gun, of course! In 1979, at age 16, I went down to Gibson's (a local department store similar to Walmart) and bought a Harrington & Richardson Topper single-shot 12-gauge. No background check. No parent needed. I just needed the cash, which was somewhere between $60 and $80, if I recall. I want to say I paid $65 for the gun in 1979.

I could also buy ammo at age 16, no problem. I usually got my ammo at the local Western Auto.

Mostly, I blew up targets like soda cans and old appliances at illegal dumps out in the woods behind the house. I went "hunting" a number of times. Never shot anything (living) with it. But, yeah.... that shotgun kicked like a mule. Every time I fired it, I was reminded of the power of a 12-ga round in a lightweight single-shot shotgun.

In 1985, our family's home burned to the ground. My dad was able to save his guns, but mine went down with the house. I was away at school and not shooting, so I didn't replace it.

In recent years, I had thought of recreating the memory of that gun. But, H&R went out of business. And, most of the used guns I'd see for sale online were in really bad shape. A few months ago, I went on the "hunt" again. I found one that looked good! For $120 + $50 (shipping) + $30 (NICS and FFL transfer), I had it in my hands! It looked to be in very good shape!

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The stock has a few nicks / bumps. But, overall the wood looks very good. The barrel looks good on the exterior.

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The bore was super-dirty! I tried to get some photos with my phone. Hopefully it's just crud and not rust.

Multiple soakings with bore cleaner. Soaking again right now. It's getting better, but I've doused it with CLP again and letting it sit overnight with the ends sealed with baggies and rubber bands.

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The barrel isn't perfect. But the pitting is mild, and the barrel is safe to shoot. The gun is 1984 vintage (according to the serial #), so it's 38 years old!

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I found some stupid-expensive ammo to test it out. And, so I did! The local indoor range allows only buckshot or slugs.

I think it just looks good and "just right" standing in a corner like this:

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Then I took it to the range for the first time. Holy crap! I remember the shotgun of my teen years having some serious recoil. But, that was 40 years ago. Today... I fired two rounds of 00-buckshot and ONE slug.

Round 1 of buckshot... "DAMN! That's a kick!"

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Round 2 of buckshot... "Fuuuuuuu**! That hurts!"

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OK... Let's try a slug... "OMFG!" It felt like a prize fighter hit me HARD, square in the shoulder!

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It was at that point, I put the shotgun away and switched to my Glock 23 for some practice! LOL!

I ordered a "Limbsaver" pad right away! I also decided to try to get a 20-ga barrel for it.

Also, is it just me? Or is there something just kinda cool about a break-action shotgun shooting that empty shell out of the back, and over your shoulder, after firing when you open it? Even the sound it makes is cool. Thwoop!

The "LimbSaver" ain't pretty, but hopefully it will tame the beast!

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Woohooo! Then I won a 20-ga barrel on eBay!

Funny... I started bidding several days before the scheduled end of the auction. And over the following days, I was outbid and outbid again. I almost forgot about the end of the auction! Totally spaced it out! I logged in with 30 seconds left in the auction! Yikes!

Of course, I had been outbid, so I decided it was go-time! I went big. Outbid again! 10 seconds left! I made as big a bid as I was willing to go and hope that nobody else had bid more. Booya! Winning bid as the clock wound down! And, I got it for a bit less than my max bid.

I figured having a 20-ga barrel will give me a couple of benefits.

First, I will have the option of 12 or 20 gauge, depending on availability and price of ammo.

Secondly, shooting 20-ga should be easier on my shoulder! The barrel appears to be in good condition.

Here's the cool part... I had been told that while the H&R Topper barrels are interchangeable, they often have to be fitted / smithed a bit. I guess I got lucky! This thing fits perfectly and locks up tight!

20-ga barrel installed on the gun in this photo. Original 12-ga barrel below.

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Now... to find 20-ga ammo! LOL! I had to look hard but found some online. NONE of the local stores had any.

I got to test fire the 20-ga barrel. Works perfectly! 20-ga ammo is much milder to shoot.

I also tested the recoil pad with 12-ga slugs. MUCH better! Still a good thump. But, it doesn't hurt!

The local outdoor rifle range requires slugs only at 25 yards, fired from the bench. I am unaccustomed to using a bead sight at 25 yards. But, I hit the target every time.

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I just love the gun! I love the simplicity of it. And, I love the memories it brings back.

I've got one of these cuffs on special (custom) order: Mason Leather in Plano, Texas.

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Done! I think it goes perfectly with the shotgun. I went with 20-ga for the ammo loops. I have a 20-ga barrel for it, but the 12-ga barrel was attached when I took the photos. The cuff came from Mason Leather in Plano, Texas. Made to order.

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Cool!
The past was a different country. Be glad you lived there once.
It is gratifying to see that your trip down memory lane is as fulfilling to you as it was when you were 16. (y)
 
Beautiful shotgun! That case hardened reciever is a work of art! šŸ˜

I had an H&R Handyrifle for a little while. It was break action single shot in 300BO. Shooting subsonics through the supressor was the coolest! It actually was quiet like in the movies! All you heard was the thud of the bullet hitting the backstop and me giggling. It did suffer from light primer strikes quite often and I ran out of storage space so it went away.

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Beautiful shotgun! That case hardened reciever is a work of art! šŸ˜

Yeah... I love me some case-hardening. What's amazing is that this was a very inexpensive entry-level gun. I think I paid somewhere around $80 for mine back in 1979 - 1980-ish. I paid $120 for this one!
 
That cuff on the buttstock is class. I looked them up for future projects. Thanks, Bruddah.
 
Old thread, but that's a cool shotgun. My very first firearm (not counting the Daisy lever action I got for my 10th birthday) was a Stevens Youth model single shot 20ga. It did have a recoil pad, but to an 11 year old, it was quite a thumper. Oh, mine had the lever in the traditional place atop the pistol grip, this was to remind you to hold on tight to avoid thumb damage.

EDIT: @Racer88, I don't see that you've posted anything about sub-caliber/gauge inserts. Pop a .410 insert into that and you've got a comfy shooter. Or a .22 LR, or .38 special, or 9mm, or .45 LC, etc.
 
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EDIT: @Racer88, I don't see that you've posted anything about sub-caliber/gauge inserts. Pop a .410 insert into that and you've got a comfy shooter. Or a .22 LR, or .38 special, or 9mm, or .45 LC, etc.

Not sure I'm understanding. I did get a 20-ga barrel for it. There might be a .410 barrel - I'm not sure. I don't believe there are barrels for .22LR, .38-SPL, 9-mm, or .45-LC. Even if there were... I wouldn't be interested in those.

The 20-ga is MUCH softer than 12-ga in this gun.
 
Not sure I'm understanding. I did get a 20-ga barrel for it. There might be a .410 barrel - I'm not sure. I don't believe there are barrels for .22LR, .38-SPL, 9-mm, or .45-LC. Even if there were... I wouldn't be interested in those.

The 20-ga is MUCH softer than 12-ga in this gun.
Sorry I wasn't more clear. I'm thinking of inserts that drop into the chamber of 12/20 ga. guns to convert the chamber (and in some cases, part of the barrel) to safely fire various other cartridges. Here is a purveyor of such items: Subcaliber Inserts

The notion being that one can use a variety of scavenged ammo in a SHTF scenario in a single firearm. I will say the the .410 inserts are probably the most useful for everyday purposes.
 
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This is what Eric is talking about.
Briley (the choke tube co.) also makes sub bore tubes in all the gauges. These are .410 for my Browning 12g.
They have their own extractor that interfaces with the barrels ejector, so once inserted, they function just like the factory barrel. They also have their own screw in choke tubes.
In the past, discerning skeet shooters of means would have a "cased set" over-under with 3 sets of barrels in 12, 28, and .410 typically. This was to make skeet more challenging for the shooter.
Today the same thing can be accomplished much cheaper with the Briley sub bore tubes.

There is also a product called "Little Skeeters" which is a chamber insert in a smaller gauge than the barrel. These allow shooting a smaller shell than the shotgun is chambered for. These do not have an extractor.

And adapters to allow 22LR and other pistol cartridges.


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Sorry I wasn't more clear. I'm thinking of inserts that drop into the chamber of 12/20 ga. guns to convert the chamber (and in some cases, part of the barrel) to safely fire various other cartridges. Here is a purveyor of such items: Subcaliber Inserts
Interesting. Never even heard of such a gizmo.

The notion being that one can use a variety of scavenged ammo in a SHTF scenario in a single firearm. I will say the the .410 inserts are probably the most useful for everyday purposes.
I can maaaaaaaybe see that being potentially useful. But I don't think I'd be carrying my single-shot in a SHTF scenario. How many people use .410? What are the chances of finding / scavenging .410?
 
Admittedly, keeping this sort of thing in a bug out bag for emergency use during/after an apocalyptical scenario may be more arm-chair survival than useful in reality, but who knows? .410s are still pretty popular around here and perfect for pest elimination or eatable critters you'd just as soon not dump an ounce and an eight of shot into. I would imagine that .22 shorts or Calibri Quiets fired out of one of the rifled inserts would be pretty danged quiet out of a long single-shot 12 ga. barrel.
 
I've got a bunch (meaning 100's of rounds) of Federal Personal Defense in .410 00 buck for use in my Judge which also accepts .45 Colt. A "pipe" gun could be an interesting compliment to that. I'm with @Racer88 that I don't see it being a go to gun in a SHTF scenario, though it could be an interesting stash item or something to have in a situation where a formal firearm could present a problem given the ability to break down and hide in plain sight.
 
  1. Top: Remington 16 ga skeet gun with factory Cutts compensator/choke. Manufactured in 1935. This design was a licensed copy of Browning's design.
  2. Middle: The infamous 12 ga Winchester 1911 a.k.a. "Widowmaker" that was recalled and exchanged for a new pump gun after hunters began blowing their heads and feet off while charging/chambering a shell. With factory Cutts compensator/choke. The last one was made in 1925. This one was manufactured in 1913.
  3. Bottom: Browning Sportsman, Belgian made pre-WW1. Very low s/n. One of the first 500 of Browning's original design and the first semi auto shotgun. Also with factory installed Cutts. Manufactured in 1906
They are all restored and fully functional but I think they have earned a comfortable retirement.
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I had a 20ga Remington model 11 (Browning license) when in my teens. Had an accuchoke on the barrel. I couldnā€™t miss with that thing it seemed. Great old shotgun!!
 
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