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I wasnt alone: Protip: Saiga 12-Gauge Shotguns Suck - The Truth About Guns
Instead of abandoning it, I keep at it until it ran reliably. But I totally gave up on it for 3 gun. So did everybody else. I have not seen one at a match in ages.

Like the guy who wrote the article, I went with a Mossberg 930. What a great gun. I saw Jerry Miculek's daughter kicking ass and taking names with a 930 and bought one soon after. Jerry also shoots the 930. And I'm sure gets paid handsomely for endorsing it.

I have since turned my affections to the Beretta A300 TAC. I also have a Beretta 20 gauge o/u that I use for clays and the occasional dove or pheasant game reserve "hunt" (which is not really hunting). My new fav for clays is my Benelli Ethos. It's bonerific. What a soft shooting gun. I resisted adopting semi auto for clays for a long time. My shoulder thanks me.
 
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I wasnt alone: Protip: Saiga 12-Gauge Shotguns Suck - The Truth About Guns
Instead of abandoning it, I keep at it until it ran reliably. But I totally gave up on it for 3 gun. So did everybody else. I have not seen one at a match in ages.

Like the guy who wrote the article, I went with a Mossberg 930. What a great gun. I saw Jerry Miculek's daughter kicking ass and taking names with a 930 and bought one soon after. Jerry also shoots the 930. And I'm sure gets paid handsomely for endorsing it.

I have since turned my affections to the Beretta A300 TAC. I also have a Beretta 20 gauge o/u that I use for clays and the occasional dove or pheasant game reserve "hunt" (which is not really hunting). My new fav for clays is my Benelli Ethos. It's bonerific. What a soft shooting gun. I resisted adopting semi auto for clays for a long time. My shoulder thanks me.

One could argue that shotgun shells aren't really suited for semi auto detachable mag shotguns. They are not really conducive to being fed out of stacked magazines. The tend to deform when stacked under pressure. Not to mention that AKs in general are cheaply made and rudimentary in design. Adapting them to shoot shotgun shells was probably not a good idea.

But they did it anyway. Be that as it may the S12 does what it's intended, shoot shotgun shells out of it's factory 5 round mags. Adding 10, 12 or larger mags makes it into something it was never intended to be and in the end an exercise in futility.

I've always considered the S12 to be just a blaster not a competition gun though I would think that if the SHTF you could mount it on a tripod, feed it drums and take out zombies or low flying planes or drones.

Having said that I've run my S12 in a couple 3 gun and other matches. It and I were never competitive but I don't recall any issues with it. It;s not a race gun but it was and is fun to shoot.

Bottom line is if you want to play games buy a shotgun suitable for games. If you wanted a cheap blaster (at the time, I paid $189 new for mine) it was a fun gun to shoot and play with.
 
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I looked at the Mossberg 12 ga. box mag loaders when they first come out. I was intrigued by the look and greater capacity. I rented one at the range and after a few short minutes realized this is not a good design. No complaint about the operation or Mossberg. It's just heavy and unbalanced. The ubiquitous tube magazine for shotguns (and the it's not a shotgun type) remain the optimal design in my opinion.

The short lived popularity of at the Saiga in competition was mainly reducing your reloading time. And the fact it had greater capacity than conventional shotguns without modifications. When fractions of seconds matter.

The division you are competing in matters - as far as what non-factory are allowed and what isn't.

For home defense... I just put mag extenders on a couple of my tactical shotguns. You can go from 2 up to 10 additional rounds... although the extreme makes any shotgun a bit too long for me. If something goes bump in the night, I go for the Shockwave and buckshot. If it's outside, I go with a longer gun with slugs. And a handgun of course. My home sits in a clearing. There's roughly 75 yards all around it. No cover, and I can illuminate it like a stadium. Wireless, solar powered cameras that detect motion all around the perimeter. If there were intruders... it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

One of the great aspects of the Shockwave style guns in home defense is you can easily swing it when going down narrow hallways, up or down stairs, or around corners in a typical residence. The Shockwave is 5+1 standard.... if the bad guy doesn't resemble a pile of hamburger after that it may be a good idea to get some training! :)
 
Midwayusa had a canvas scabbard that fit my Tac14 w/surefire forend. But the rifle sights ended up ripping the insides all to hell. 1 day Ill sew some leather/suede into it and try again.
Think was for a shorty AR or the lever action pistol thingy not a shotgun scabbard
 
I looked at the Mossberg 12 ga. box mag loaders when they first come out. I was intrigued by the look and greater capacity. I rented one at the range and after a few short minutes realized this is not a good design. No complaint about the operation or Mossberg. It's just heavy and unbalanced. The ubiquitous tube magazine for shotguns (and the it's not a shotgun type) remain the optimal design in my opinion.

The short lived popularity of at the Saiga in competition was mainly reducing your reloading time. And the fact it had greater capacity than conventional shotguns without modifications. When fractions of seconds matter.

The division you are competing in matters - as far as what non-factory are allowed and what isn't.

For home defense... I just put mag extenders on a couple of my tactical shotguns. You can go from 2 up to 10 additional rounds... although the extreme makes any shotgun a bit too long for me. If something goes bump in the night, I go for the Shockwave and buckshot. If it's outside, I go with a longer gun with slugs. And a handgun of course. My home sits in a clearing. There's roughly 75 yards all around it. No cover, and I can illuminate it like a stadium. Wireless, solar powered cameras that detect motion all around the perimeter. If there were intruders... it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

One of the great aspects of the Shockwave style guns in home defense is you can easily swing it when going down narrow hallways, up or down stairs, or around corners in a typical residence. The Shockwave is 5+1 standard.... if the bad guy doesn't resemble a pile of hamburger after that it may be a good idea to get some training! :)

I never really considered my Shockwave for HD it's more of just a fun gun to play with. My HD/SD gun is a 5 shot 18" bbl pump. One gun for indoor and outdoor use. . The shorter 18" bbl is better inside than a longer barrel and just as good at distance. I've killed a couple deer with beyond 100 yards. 5 shots is fine, just top off the tube as your go. Though not likely to get into extended running gun battle inside your house or elsewhere. However If having more ammo in your gun was a concern you could always use mini shells and an adapter.

Frankly though, the chance of having to use a shotgun for HD/SD is pretty slim.
 
I never really considered my Shockwave for HD it's more of just a fun gun to play with. My HD/SD gun is a 5 shot 18" bbl pump. One gun for indoor and outdoor use. . The shorter 18" bbl is better inside than a longer barrel and just as good at distance. I've killed a couple deer with beyond 100 yards. 5 shots is fine, just top off the tube as your go. Though not likely to get into extended running gun battle inside your house or elsewhere. However If having more ammo in your gun was a concern you could always use mini shells and an adapter.

Frankly though, the chance of having to use a shotgun for HD/SD is pretty slim.
Home invasions are on the rise, but I dont really worry about someone foolish enough to come to my place. They are going to have a bad day.

I put the adapter in my Shockwave to accommodate the mini shells. I was skeptical because it's just a cheap piece of plastic but it seems to work fine. I haven't had a lick of trouble with it. Just recently I got a smoking deal on Aguila mini shells. I bought 250 rounds. That should last a while. The shockwave cycles minishells perfectly with the adapter. Expectations exceeded!

The 12 ga shorty is one of my primary HD weapons. I prefer the Remington semi auto but also have the Shockwave pump. I also have a shockwave 20 ga that is for my wife. She can handle that gun pretty well now and knows the drill. Lock down in the master bedroom/bath, shoot first, ask questions later. There's also a semi auto handgun in the master bath.
 
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