Tisa is preparing 1911 builder kits

[Bongo Lewi]

Rumor is they will be in-market in a couple of weeks. Basically, it’s a DIY 1911 kit.

As I understand it, there’s no machining involved, so it’s not an 80% type of thing. But for those new to the 1911, this might be a great way to better understand the mechanics of the 1911 and learn to do some of the fitting 1911 gunsmiths do. Theoretically, with the right parts you could build a gun that would be very expensive to buy Made-to-Order. Save a ton of money.

 

[Racer88]

Any idea of what the "kit" will cost?

 

[Bongo Lewi]

Rumor is $399

 

[USApat]

Rumor is $399

Not intending on hijacking your thread and I know very little about 1911s, but this appears to be quite an astounding price for any handgun of this caliber. $319 on "Freedom Week" sale! Built and ready to go.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/tisas-1911-a1-45-pistol-5-cerakote-black-1911a1s5.html

 

[Bongo Lewi]

I heard it from a Tisas rep, so I think it’s legit. That is indeed low cost. A new Tisas is about $600. It’s emerged as one of the best, well made entry level 1911s out there. They are selling like crazy among 1911 enthusiasts and newbies because the guns are literally as good as the established mid tier 1911s costing twice as much. Well made and reliable.

I have been shooting 1911s since dirt was invented and the Tisas 1911s are genuinely disrupting the market. Girsan too. Also a very good 1911 for the money.

Kimber screwed the pooch by sacrificing quality and these Turkish guns are now kicking their ass.

That PSA sale is a bargain. And the gun is decent quality. It’s not in the white so itis not the same as a kit but if you want an affordable 1911, I’d buy it!

 

[Bongo Lewi]

I should also mention the A1 Model PSA is selling is their most basic, lowest cost model. A clone of the original US Army GI issue. I have one. Not pretty, but it goes bang.

The Tisas kit that is rumored to be $399 is not surprising. I can buy an OEM Glock cheaper than I can build a P80.

 

[Stephen G]

I was impressed with the TISA. I got the 5" Government model in 9mm.
Classic Firearms was running for $359 or some outrageous price.
My TISA had about the best fit/finish out of all. Girsan, SDS,RockIsland,Taurus.
Hard to beat any of them for the money.

 

[Bongo Lewi]

I made some additional probative questions and my Tisas guy backpedaled. The kits mentioned are going to be parts kits, sans frame. That's all well and good. They are all forged parts. But if they are offered at the price I heard, nobody is going to buy them.

@Stephen G I'm with you on Tisas, Girsan, Rock. There are only two makes of 1911s I have personally witnessed that had defects in manufacturing. Kimber and Taurus. I'm not talking about the normal break-in that you have to do with a new 1911. I'm referring to unquestionably shitty workmanship and zero QA before they were boxed up.

I have a couple of older Kimber's that were made when the founders were still running the company. Excellent guns. The new ones.... I liken them to a nice paint job on a piece of shit car. Fancy milling on the slides and frame, cheap internals. Taurus... I had a warranty issue and their customer service people jerked me around for weeks - in broken English. That was before they moved their US CS here from Brazil. Too late. I wouldn't piss on a Taurus if it were on fire.

 

[Viking2721]

Hey brother, I've been looking for a polymer 1911 for a while now. Seems like there was talk of one a couple years ago a d Browning a d Glockstore were supposed to carry it exclusivsly. Viking wants a poly 1911 so bad. Let me know if you hear anything else. Of course I always read the last post in the thread 1st and then go backwards...wierd dyslexic is thing perhaps.....so maybe you already answered that question. Of course if anyone could find it we know who it is....

 

[Viking2721]

I wish the Platypus was an 80%

 

[BeerHunter]

I made some additional probative questions and my Tisas guy backpedaled. The kits mentioned are going to be parts kits, sans frame. That's all well and good. They are all forged parts. But if they are offered at the price I heard, nobody is going to buy them.

@Stephen G I'm with you on Tisas, Girsan, Rock. There are only two makes of 1911s I have personally witnessed that had defects in manufacturing. Kimber and Taurus. I'm not talking about the normal break-in that you have to do with a new 1911. I'm referring to unquestionably shitty workmanship and zero QA before they were boxed up.

I have a couple of older Kimber's that were made when the founders were still running the company. Excellent guns. The new ones.... I liken them to a nice paint job on a piece of shit car. Fancy milling on the slides and frame, cheap internals. Taurus... I had a warranty issue and their customer service people jerked me around for weeks - in broken English. That was before they moved their US CS here from Brazil. Too late. I wouldn't piss on a Taurus if it were on fire.

Although I do not own any Tisa or Girsan 1911s, one of my 1911 handguns is a RIA M1911A1 CS that's been my carry gun for a few years. Of course, since it's in my EDC rotation, it's a great shooter that I like very much!

I can also echo your comments on Taurus firearms. I do own one Taurus PT92AF that I bought 37 years ago when I was in college and it's been very reliable since then, but I'd never buy any Taurus firearm these days, having adopted the mantra, "friends don't let friends buy Taurus." SCROOM!

 

[Notshawn54]

Hey brother, I've been looking for a polymer 1911 for a while now. Seems like there was talk of one a couple years ago a d Browning a d Glockstore were supposed to carry it exclusivsly. Viking wants a poly 1911 so bad. Let me know if you hear anything else. Of course I always read the last post in the thread 1st and then go backwards...wierd dyslexic is thing perhaps.....so maybe you already answered that question. Of course if anyone could find it we know who it is....

Here you go.

Poly

Rock River Arms, Inc. offers a complete line of American made, custom built AR15 style rifles.

www.rockriverarms.com

 

[Bongo Lewi]

Although I do not own any Tisa or Girsan 1911s, one of my 1911 handguns is a RIA M1911A1 CS that's been my carry gun for a few years. Of course, since it's in my EDC rotation, it's a great shooter that I like very much!

I can also echo your comments on Taurus firearms. I do own one Taurus PT92AF that I bought 37 years ago when I was in college and it's been very reliable since then, but I'd never buy any Taurus firearm these days, having adopted the mantra, "friends don't let friends buy Taurus." SCROOM!

That Beretta clone was made on Beretta tooling In Brazil under license. It’s a good gun! I consider the 92 one of the best semi auto pistols ever made. I carried one for quite a while when I dressed like I was on Miami Vice.

 

[Notshawn54]

That Beretta clone was made on Beretta tooling In Brazil under license. It’s a good gun! I consider the 92 one of the best semi auto pistols ever made. I carried one for quite a while when I dressed like I was on Miami Vice.

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Sorry, but only a Bren Ten can compliment that look.

 

[Bongo Lewi]

Sorry, but only a Bren Ten can compliment that look.

I might have bought one if mags had been available! Very few of those were made…. 1000 or something like that. Wish I had bought one because they are definitely collectible now.

I’m not as good looking as Sonny Crockett either but I did OK.

 

[BeerHunter]

Used to want a Bren Ten BECAUSE of Sonny Crockett carrying one some of the time on MV. I don't need or want another handgun these days, but RIA had recently offered a full size 1911 chambered in 10mm that I had briefly considered as a close enough facsimile BECAUSE I would never be able to spend the kind of cash needed on a Bren Ten even IF one were available with at least three mags to feed it. In the end, I decided I needed yet another caliber handgun like I needed another hole in my wallet. . .not going to happen!

 

[Notshawn54]

In the end, I decided I needed yet another caliber handgun like I needed another hole in my wallet. . .not going to happen!

I’m with ya. But, I keep getting drawn towards the 38super rabbit hole and then talk myself out of it. And then I want it again. And so on….. yes I reload, but Dillon has been back ordered forever on the dies. I have a Square Deal B so proprietary dies.

 

[Bongo Lewi]

I'm the same about 5.7x28. Tempted many times. The reason I hesitate is in order to take advantage of the round, you have to hand load. The retail ammo in this caliber is intentionally dumbed down because by design it was intended to penetrate body armor. The barrels tend to be long so it's not an easy gun to conceal. Fun to shoot though. Low recoil and unlike 9mm it shoots very flat out to 100 yards.

My 10mm journey began with a Girsan. Then a Rock, then a Glock. I was seeking a semi-auto alternative to my Ruger Alaskan in 454 Casull and more capacity. Bear and cat gun. Now, there are no bears or cats where I live and I havent been elk or deer hunting in grizzly or cat country for quite a while.

 

[bkbrno]

I also badly wanted a Bren 10. Some years later, I learned that it was based on the little know, to the West at the time, CZ75. Some years later, dealers couldn't give away a CZ at gun shows. I got a 40P for around $250 new in the box. I saw an EAA Witness in 10mm and just had to have it. Made by Tanfaglio in Italy and based on the CZ75. That would be my bear gun except it is a compact thar only holds 10 rounds and is really heavy being all steel. Heck of a fun pistol to shoot.

 

[Bongo Lewi]

I also badly wanted a Bren 10. Some years later, I learned that it was based on the little know, to the West at the time, CZ75. Some years later, dealers couldn't give away a CZ at gun shows. I got a 40P for around $250 new in the box. I saw an EAA Witness in 10mm and just had to have it. Made by Tanfaglio in Italy and based on the CZ75. That would be my bear gun except it is a compact thar only holds 10 rounds and is really heavy being all steel. Heck of a fun pistol to shoot.

I had a Witness in 45 stainless. Nice looking. Shot well, but it was very heavy. I've always liked the CZ75. Great trigger. I also had a Rami. Loved that gun, but when I made the leap to polymer for EDC, it went in the safe.

Bear gun... for quite a while it was the Ruger Alaskan in 454 Casull. Most guides, hunters, bush pilots in grizzly country were carrying big bore revolvers. Still are. The 454 Casull will rattle your bones and loosen fillings. But I'm told the Glock 20 is getting traction - esp with pilots up there in Eskimo land. More ammo is never a bad thing.

The conventional wisdom remains that six guns are more than adequate for bear and cats. You're most likely only going to get one or two shots off in the unlikely event a bear decides you are unwelcome. I've had several encounters with big cats and bears and never found it necessary to kill one. I woke up one night to find a rather large fellow sticking his head in my tent. He was so close I could smell his breath. I slept clothed with the Ruger in a chest rig but I would have had to draw and shoot thru the sleeping bag. Since I knew better than to keep food in the tent I just played possum and he (or she) went away. Seemed like hours but it was only a few minutes.

If you don't hit something vital in the first or second shot, you are in trouble. A bear 50 feet away can close that distance in a couple of seconds and rip the skin right off your bones in one swipe. Their strength is incredible. Even a medium-sized bear can tear the door off a car. We have all seen those videos.

The added advantage of a wheel gun is when it's pressed against a bad guy or something furry it won't come out of battery. The moral of the story is ten rounds is about 8 more than you will need before Yogi is on top of you!