"Official" Thread SCOTUS Upholds Biden's Frame and Receivers Rule in VANDERSTOK case

Until the ATF is completely dismantled. yep. They won't stop.
 
Well.... FUCK.
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Michele said:
Call Trump to shut down ATF
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ItsWAWGaming said:
Yes this, we need to all start doing this now lol
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What will that accomplish? The rule / "law" will still be in effect, eh? It doesn't matter which agency is tasked with enforcing it. If not the ay-tee-eff, it will be another agency. Right?
 
Are you guys/gals going to stop purchasing lowers now? Or, does this make you want more?
 
What do you fellow patriots make of this? It seems to me that this only applies to the kits, but it's not easy for me to figure out all of the implications.

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We had long discussions about the frame and receiver rule when it was first released and NO you don't have to serialize any home built firearm that you have built for your own personal use. The rule change affects manufacturers, and FFL holders.

FFL holders include retail gun shops, pawn shops and gun smiths. A gun smith has to have a FFL just like retail shops and pawn shops do. Regular gun shops and gun smiths are required to have a Type 1 FFL while pawn shops must have a Type 2 Pawn Broker FFL.

I know the opinions are a lengthy read but it's worth taking the time to read through all of the opinions.
 
It'sMe said:
Are you guys/gals going to stop purchasing lowers now? Or, does this make you want more?
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It depends on what you mean by "lowers." The 80% frames have been off the market for quite some time... when the rule was issued. Serialized frames have been available all along. I've bought a few of those (through an FFL). Of course, they were 100% finished and ready for parts.

There's really no point in a serialized 80% frame. If it's serialized, it might as well be "100%." Unless you just like the finish work because you've got nothing better to do. The incentive (at least one of the incentives) to do the 20% finish work on the 80% frames was that there was no FFL / 4473 involved... it was "off the books."
 
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This ruling contradicts Bruen AND Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo (which ended Chevron deference). That's why it makes no sense to me.
 
Racer88 said:
There's really no point in a serialized 80% frame. If it's serialized, it might as well be "100%." Unless you just like the finish work because you've got nothing better to do. The incentive to do the 20% finish work on the 80% frames was that there was no FFL / 4473 involved... it was "off the books."
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I have to agree with this. Plus it's the manufacturer's responsibility if something is out of spec on the finished frame/receiver.
 
I suppose another incentive of doing the "20%" finish work on the 80% frames was pride of having a hand in it. But, if you're going through the trouble (time and added expense) of a 4473 and FFL, I submit it reduces that incentive to some degree.
 
CECannonJr said:
What do you fellow patriots make of this? It seems to me that this only applies to the kits, but it's not easy for me to figure out all of the implications.

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Threads merged.
 
Racer88 said:
I suppose another incentive of doing the "20%" finish work on the 80% frames was pride of having a hand in it. But, if you're going through the trouble (time and added expense) of a 4473 and FFL, I submit it reduces that incentive to some degree.
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I would still buy a serialized 80%. Often, I like the process of building more than I like shooting.
Although, I have not been to the range in awhile, nor do I have any recent projects.
 
Time for Trumpy to add some Supreme Court Justices along the lines of Ted Cruz/Mike Lee... :D You think the libs would have a fit? 🖕'em! :devilish:
 
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