Flock ALPR Cameras

Unintended consequences... :unsure:
Maybe just get another license plate?

“Once you’re in the Flock system, it’s on you to get out. You have to bear any responsibility for making that happen.”

www.yahoo.com

Flock Safety Camera Error Turns Colorado Driver Into Frequent Police Target in Dystopian Nightmare

Kyle Dausman faces frequent police stops because Flock’s automated license plate reader cameras alert the police every time he passes by. This is because his truck is somehow associated with an active...
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no4mk1t said:
Unintended consequences... :unsure:
Maybe just get another license plate?

“Once you’re in the Flock system, it’s on you to get out. You have to bear any responsibility for making that happen.”

www.yahoo.com

Flock Safety Camera Error Turns Colorado Driver Into Frequent Police Target in Dystopian Nightmare

Kyle Dausman faces frequent police stops because Flock’s automated license plate reader cameras alert the police every time he passes by. This is because his truck is somehow associated with an active...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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Sounds like low-hanging fruit for a decent attorney. That's harassment at the very least.
 
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Under the category of, "If the system can do it, it will be used to do it."
There are articles where city councils are stating the Flock rep lied when asked if the system had this capability.

www.wbay.com

Oshkosh council rescinds Flock camera contract after ‘false statements’

Oshkosh Police Chief Dean Smith said members of his agency brought him security information about the product that conflicted with what Flock Safety representatives shared with the council Tuesday
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What is the data retention period for Flock ALPR?

Flock Safety (ALPR) stores data for up to 30 days by default; customers (jurisdictions or property owners) can configure retention settings and some contracts allow longer retention for investigative or legal needs. Recent reporting and vendor documentation note typical retention windows range from 30 to 365 days depending on local policy and contract.

What is a heat map in relation to the Flock ALPR?

A heat map for Flock ALPR (automated license-plate reader) is a visual, color-coded map that shows concentrations of vehicle detections over a geographic area and time period. Key points:
  • Purpose: quickly identify where and when vehicles (or specific plates/plate matches) are most frequently seen.
  • Data shown: aggregated vehicle detections (counts), not individual trip histories; can be filtered by date/time range, tag matches, vehicle characteristics, or event types.
  • Colors: warmer colors (red/orange) = higher detection density; cooler colors (blue/green) = lower density.
  • Use cases: crime pattern analysis, locating hotspots for surveillance or patrols, validating routes/patterns of travel.
  • Privacy note: heat maps aggregate detections to show density rather than displaying individual vehicle movement timelines.
So, if a particular license plate number is searched, and the retention period is 365 days, a heat map can be generated that shows a pattern of travel for that vehicle over the course of a year?

Yes — if a jurisdiction’s Flock ALPR retention is set to 365 days and the user has access to search a specific plate, the platform can generate visualizations (including heat maps) that show where and when that plate was detected over that retention window.
Important details:
  • The heat map is an aggregated, geospatial visualization of detection locations and densities for the queried plate and time range.
  • It will reflect every detection retained in the system for that plate during the selected period (up to the retention limit).
  • Filters (date/time ranges, camera groups, match type) can narrow the results.
  • Access controls and audit logs typically restrict who can run such searches and retain records of queries.
 
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Sawzall and couple road flares down the pipe. 2500° for 20min
Data centers need to be fed data.
 
There is no expectation of privacy in a public space, Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967). I'm not a proponent of these cameras but I can't imagine what they are doing is illegal. The mix between public and private is concerning as the private sector is using it to sell data and the public is using it to track drivers/cars.
 
FrankenGlock said:
There is no expectation of privacy in a public space, Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967). I'm not a proponent of these cameras but I can't imagine what they are doing is illegal. The mix between public and private is concerning as the private sector is using it to sell data and the public is using it to track drivers/cars.
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Then explain a 2 party consent in recordings. Or even single party consent. Every State has 1 or the other.
 
Probably the most informative article so far on the Flock ALPR. It seems the Flock cameras have more capabilities than just taking photos of your license plate.
Oh, and they have AI Flock drones now too.

Read the part about abuse by LE. Even chiefs of police are using this for non-official business purposes and getting busted. So, who's going to police the police? We're not in Mayberry anymore Toto...

www.cnet.com

When Flock Cameras Appear: Everything You Need to Know About This Surveillance Tech

Flock Safety is setting up cameras and drones across the country. I spoke to cities and privacy advocates fighting back against the AI surveillance, including Flock and others like it.
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Stephen G said:
Then explain a 2 party consent in recordings. Or even single party consent. Every State has 1 or the other.
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Are you talking about recording phone calls? That’s something completely different. Someone can record you in a public space with video and audio and there is nothing you can do and it and it’s completely legal.
 
FrankenGlock said:
Are you talking about recording phone calls? That’s something completely different. Someone can record you in a public space with video and audio and there is nothing you can do and it and it’s completely legal.
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Any time audio is recorded it requires consent. NOT JUST PHONE.
Ive been through this in several states and it was never over phone recordings.
In single party consent states as long as person recording is somehow engaged verbally in conversation its legal.
Other wise it requires a court order.
Im sure we have some lawyers in here that can verify this.

By accepting terms of service with your phone, you consent to being recorded though.
 
James Moore said:
Party consent pertains to audio recording, not silent video recording.
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A little OT but related to your statement is our club just got a number of new surveillance cams installed on the various ranges. They all feed back wirelessly to the clubhouse office. There were older units already in place that were supplanted by the new cams. With the old cams, you could barely tell the identity of was shooting. With the new cams, you can read a .22 cartridge box on the bench in front of them. :eek:

But to your point: video is retained but it is illegal for sound to be collected so all of the mics are disabled. Which is good because I've been involved in discussions about the club prez and how he is a wienie... ;) I don't know if he knows how to read lips, though... :eek: :D

For context, our outdoor (only) ranges are member-only, and the range gate is accessed with a RFID card. Aside from Public Day or other occasional events, there are NO RSOs or anyone else on duty--it is self-policed. It is not uncommon to go there and have the range to myself. We are not supposed to confront anyone doing anything wrong (ie: they are armed), just to narc on them. :rolleyes: The few times I've seen bonehead shit, I've gone over and reminded the members of the rules and that they were on camera and that took care of the "problem". In most cases they didn't realize there were cameras. :rolleyes:

The biggest infraction I will see, and I don't usually make a deal of it, is "fast" fire on the pistol range. Shots are supposed to be 1sec apart. If a mag dump all ends up on the paper, tightly grouped, I'll comment positively then remind them if one of the club officers is around, they may come over and bitch about it. The plinking (fast fire) range is literally 50' next door so there is really no excuse...

Occasionally, some asshole will put a hole in one of the gongs with an AP round or blatantly shoot up one of the 4x4s used to support the target backstops. While the video is not normally reviewed by anyone (that I am aware of), in those cases it was and the perps found out. They are mum on who it was and what actions were taken but I would imagine repeat actions would result in expulsion. I'd have to read the bylaws...
 
Stephen G said:
Any time audio is recorded it requires consent. NOT JUST PHONE.
Ive been through this in several states and it was never over phone recordings.
In single party consent states as long as person recording is somehow engaged verbally in conversation its legal.
Other wise it requires a court order.
Im sure we have some lawyers in here that can verify this.

By accepting terms of service with your phone, you consent to being recorded though.
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Not in a public place as there is no expectation for privacy. You can record video and audio all you want.
 
James Moore said:
Here's a neat little tool.

haveibeenflocked.com

Have I Been Flocked? - Check Flock Safety Audit Logs: Is Your License Plate Being Watched?

Have police looked up your travel history? Search Flock Safety audit logs for your license plate.
haveibeenflocked.com haveibeenflocked.com
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Here's a sample of what comes up.

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Racer88 said:
Hmmmm... I wonder if that's a phishing site. I don't think I'd enter my plate number there.
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It's a legitimate site, and there are options to search things other than your license plate.
Hell, you can search your neighbor's plate if you want.

You can search different crimes in different areas. If someone queried Flock, they are supposed to put a reason in the query and you can find out like how many times "theft" or some other crime and even which agency is searching and who is doing the searching.
 
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Stephen G said:
www.law.cornell.edu

18 U.S. Code § 2511 - Interception and disclosure of wire, oral, or electronic communications prohibited

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Illegal

No less than 1 consenting participate is required.
If presenting video for evidence even a commentary on the video track is enough for dismissal of evidence. Separate audio recordings for commentary.
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You are 100% misinterpreting what that law says. This is about wire communications like phone calls, radio signals, and closed loop TV. You have zero right to privacy in a public space. I can record video or audio of you or anyone in a public space and there is nothing anyone can do about it and no they don't have to get your permission.
 

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