Question Guide rod spring

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Does the 20# guide rod spring weight help or hurt with recoil? I'm looking to add a heavier guide rod spring for my wife to help with recoil. I have a Polymer 80 PF940SC G26.
 
Using a heaver guide rod spring will make it harder for your wife to rack and load. My wife has trouble racking with a standard spring.

A heaver spring could cause feeding and ejecting problems too.
 
You may want to try recoil buffers. The ones in the link are for G17, 19, 23, etc. At a glance I am not seeing one for the G26. Someone else here may have already found them if they exist.
 
I am looking at the tungsten guide rods from the Glock store and not sure what spring to order with it is lighter better? She thinks the recoil is a little bit too much and I want her to like it.
 
Maybe 9mm is not right for her, have her try M&P EZ 380, heard good things about them for recoil and slide rack sensitive shooters.

If your set on SC frame... few options to consider

1. try AA conversion kit for 22LR
2. try compensator
3. try ported barrel/slide combo
4. try big and heavy flashlight to mount on SC
 
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Maybe 9mm is not right for her, have her try M&P EZ 380, heard good things about them for recoil and slide rack sensitive shooters.

If your set on SC frame... few options to consider

1. try AA conversion kit for 22LR
2. try compensator
3. try ported barrel/slide combo
4. try big and heavy flashlight to mount on SC
You don't think the tungsten guide rod would help? Right now, she has a Taurus TX22 trying to step her up to something a little bigger.
 
You don't think the tungsten guide rod would help? Right now, she has a Taurus TX22 trying to step her up to something a little bigger.
How much more does the tungsten guide rod weigh? The more the pistol weighs, the less perceptible the recoil will be (physics).
 
would it help? probably... is that worth the extra money you spent on a tungsten guide rod? you be the judge.

For me, I would just get a flashlight and mounted it on SC.

After watching tons of training videos, I have learned that lack of recoil control usually is not the function of hand strength, it is more of grip technique. I will post some if I can find them on my yt history.
 
Either step up to a heavier firearm (G19 Compact perhaps -the SC G26 is very light-weight and is a hard-hitter and can be VERY unpleasant for some shooters -I have *a couple* G33 Sub-Compacts in 357 Sig, they are actually painful for me to shoot repetitively, I have no problem shooting that cartridge in a Compact G32).

--OR-- Look into a ported barrel/slide combo (the slide and barrel MUST be designed to function together to be safe or effective on a ported pistol). This can help reduce felt recoil, there are a few drawbacks, but nothing too serious. I run a couple ported Builds. If that is beyond the line for you, you could also look at just getting an extended externally-ported barrel or a threaded barrel and install a comp on the end... It will lengthen the pistol, probably at least out to Compact size, but you will still have the smaller grip if concealment is a concern. This can also be used for practice and training, and swapped-out (or just removed if desired) for daily carry purposes.

I have no personal experience with Zaffiri, but their rep is decent, here are some ideas:


Or a cheaper option letting you use whatever slide you've already got:


This will hang out beyond the slide a little, and the benefit of the porting won't be huge, but this is a good seller and it WILL help much more than messing around with a guide-rod, I am dubious that you will get any noticeable effect from an RSA swap.
 
Maybe 9mm is not right for her, have her try M&P EZ 380, heard good things about them for recoil and slide rack sensitive shooters.

If your set on SC frame... few options to consider

1. try AA conversion kit for 22LR
2. try compensator
3. try ported barrel/slide combo
4. try big and heavy flashlight to mount on SC
Yeah! My wife couldn't rack a P80, so we got her a M&P EZ. She has no problem racking it, the only thing is I wish I had got in 380. The 9mm is a hand full for her.
 
What it really comes down to is what the gun is intended to be used for? I myself like bigger bore guns in general. I do have a couple of .22s for small varmints but like 9MM or bigger for plinking. So if the owner/shooter is into cheap plinking a .22 is fine. Or you can enjoy blowing banana holes in paper with a 500.

If your talking self defense? That's a whole new ball game.

IMO you can toss this "one shot kill" nonsense in the garbage. It takes a very practiced shooter with a lots of rounds down range to make that happen. Takes a certain amount of courage if the bad guys is trying to engage you at the same time. In a situation like that the very first thing that happens is you will experience a MASSIVE adrenalin dump which is going to instantly increase your heart rate. To about 120 beats a minute. That's full on exercise rate. Go run 1/4 mile, stop and instantly pull your gun and start shooting! See how well you do. So in the end size matters. A shot that puts a bad guy down wounded is much better than them standing there a flesh would returning fire. I kinda feel that unless you are real close a 380 can get you killed. Heck for EDC I'm not a huge fan of a 9MM. If God forbid I ever get into a situation like that I'd kinda like the be the winner. I will admit that 9MM has vastly improved sense the US Army adopted the 9MM but we went from one shot with the .45 to double tap with the 9. Just my opinions. Flame suit on!

Rick
 
What it really comes down to is what the gun is intended to be used for? I myself like bigger bore guns in general. I do have a couple of .22s for small varmints but like 9MM or bigger for plinking. So if the owner/shooter is into cheap plinking a .22 is fine. Or you can enjoy blowing banana holes in paper with a 500.

If your talking self defense? That's a whole new ball game.

IMO you can toss this "one shot kill" nonsense in the garbage. It takes a very practiced shooter with a lots of rounds down range to make that happen. Takes a certain amount of courage if the bad guys is trying to engage you at the same time. In a situation like that the very first thing that happens is you will experience a MASSIVE adrenalin dump which is going to instantly increase your heart rate. To about 120 beats a minute. That's full on exercise rate. Go run 1/4 mile, stop and instantly pull your gun and start shooting! See how well you do. So in the end size matters. A shot that puts a bad guy down wounded is much better than them standing there a flesh would returning fire. I kinda feel that unless you are real close a 380 can get you killed. Heck for EDC I'm not a huge fan of a 9MM. If God forbid I ever get into a situation like that I'd kinda like the be the winner. I will admit that 9MM has vastly improved sense the US Army adopted the 9MM but we went from one shot with the .45 to double tap with the 9. Just my opinions. Flame suit on!

Rick

I've moved down from .40 to 9-mm for EDC.

For home defense, .45-ACP and most recently 12-ga.
 
What it really comes down to is what the gun is intended to be used for? I myself like bigger bore guns in general. I do have a couple of .22s for small varmints but like 9MM or bigger for plinking. So if the owner/shooter is into cheap plinking a .22 is fine. Or you can enjoy blowing banana holes in paper with a 500.

If your talking self defense? That's a whole new ball game.

IMO you can toss this "one shot kill" nonsense in the garbage. It takes a very practiced shooter with a lots of rounds down range to make that happen. Takes a certain amount of courage if the bad guys is trying to engage you at the same time. In a situation like that the very first thing that happens is you will experience a MASSIVE adrenalin dump which is going to instantly increase your heart rate. To about 120 beats a minute. That's full on exercise rate. Go run 1/4 mile, stop and instantly pull your gun and start shooting! See how well you do. So in the end size matters. A shot that puts a bad guy down wounded is much better than them standing there a flesh would returning fire. I kinda feel that unless you are real close a 380 can get you killed. Heck for EDC I'm not a huge fan of a 9MM. If God forbid I ever get into a situation like that I'd kinda like the be the winner. I will admit that 9MM has vastly improved sense the US Army adopted the 9MM but we went from one shot with the .45 to double tap with the 9. Just my opinions. Flame suit on!

Rick
Ready? Aim! I agree! Wait, wha? Ohmigosh,whatistheworldcomingto!? Time to buy a lottery-ticket!:LOL:

My 'start' into online gun-talk, years (and years, AND YEARS:rolleyes:) ago was on a Forum dedicated to SCIENTIFIC research into terminal-ballistics, real-world ACTUAL shooting statistics boiled-down to study what calibers, platforms, loads, etc would contribute to 'one-shot-drop' effectiveness. This wasn't 'one-shot kill' mind you, but destroying nerve-bundles, musculature, and bone in a person's arm tends to remove them -usually- from active threat-assessment radar.;) Well, I was a dedicated 9mm fan then, but ultimately zeroing-in on the 10mm Auto cartridge. To my unhappiness and chagrin, 9mm wasn't making a great showing, as I recall. Great control for follow-up shots in quick succession, a necessary consideration in any real-world shooting "event." For that reason and that reason alone, 9mm still validated itself, beyond that it WAS a minimum-threshold caliber. As Rick stated however, 9mm has come a LONG way. I trust it more now than I did then, I think. But, .380? I try not to be critical, because for many reasons I feel it is not my place to put it down (including the concept that the .380 cartridge has likely had some forward strides similar to those of 9mm), but I personally will not even own one, no one in my household does either. The 'kick' of a .380 isn't that much less than a 9mm, and there are plenty of lower-power offerings for training and familiarity, and while the 'power' of a 9mm isn't much more than a .380, but getting into REAL statistics and research, it is enough of a difference between effective, and NOT.
 
The 'kick' of a .380 isn't that much less than a 9mm,

My first "EDC" was a Colt Pony Pocketlite .380. I got it when I was far less knowledgeable and wanted something I could carry easily in my front pocket.

Here's the thing.... The .380 is MUCH harsher than any 9-mm I own. The "kick" of a .380 is MORE than a (typical) 9-mm. Why or how? Because like most .380 pistols, the Colt Pocketlite is tiny. It's Physics.

Similarly, when my wife got her first gun and I was still a bit naive... We let the salesman talk us into a S&W 642 Airweight .38-SPL snubby. My wife fired it once. And then it became mine. I can fire it effectively, but it also is NOT "fun" to shoot. Physics. Tiny gun = more felt recoil.

Stop giving tiny women tiny guns! The problem is the popularity of the "micro-nines." The problem isn't that the shooter "can't handle 9-mm." The problem is the size (and weight) of the gun.
 
Try a PF9ss sometime with +P+ loads.
My favorite pocket gun is still my East German Makarov in 9mm MAK.
 
My first "EDC" was a Colt Pony Pocketlite .380. I got it when I was far less knowledgeable and wanted something I could carry easily in my front pocket.

Here's the thing.... The .380 is MUCH harsher than any 9-mm I own. The "kick" of a .380 is MORE than a (typical) 9-mm. Why or how? Because like most .380 pistols, the Colt Pocketlite is tiny. It's Physics.

Similarly, when my wife got her first gun and I was still a bit naive... We let the salesman talk us into a S&W 642 Airweight .38-SPL snubby. My wife fired it once. And then it became mine. I can fire it effectively, but it also is NOT "fun" to shoot. Physics. Tiny gun = more felt recoil.

Stop giving tiny women tiny guns! The problem is the popularity of the "micro-nines." The problem isn't that the shooter "can't handle 9-mm." The problem is the size (and weight) of the gun.
Never shot a Colt Pony, are they blow back? I know the .380 Interarms PPK I carried back in the day was rather unpleasant to shoot compared to more recent locked breach designs.
 
Never shot a Colt Pony, are they blow back? I know the .380 Interarms PPK I carried back in the day was rather unpleasant to shoot compared to more recent locked breach designs.

Not blow-back. Recoil-operated / locked breech.
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