If I put together a 17 Long

Bongo Lewi said:
You vill memorize ze numbers! Unt das generations.
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A little digging found some of the "missing" numbers. G24=.40 long slide, 6" barrel (like 17L), G25=.380 compact (19 sized), G28=.380 subcompact (26 sized), etc. I think Glock has offered up the G28 recently in the US.

31-33 are .357SIG (F, C, SC), a .40 case necked down to 9mm. Glock should have just offered the barrel as an option for .40 guns instead of making a separate series. :rolleyes:

A 34/35 (9, 40) has a 5.3" barrel so it will fit into the IPSC "box".

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G36 is .45ACP single-stack (6rd mag) but I would buy a 1911 before I bought one of those.

Some of the more obscure numbers like G37, G38 and G39 are .45GAP (Glock Auto Pistol) a .45 caliber that could fit in a 9mm frame but the ammo is made from gold unicorn rainbow farts so is scarce and expensive (comparatively).


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98ttIClDTEM&t=22s

RIP RLE... :(
 
PS: and RIP GG! :(

Interesting article on the G17 from 1986 LINK

There is a Gen5 bigboy (G20 MOS, G30) article in this month's American Rifleman (not online yet)...
 
The 17L clone has been a lot of fun to shoot. I would not have expected that I like it more than the G34 clones.

Anyone here have thoughts on ported barrels? Good bad yes no?????

The slide has a huge cut on the top so that I think this barrel would work

Zaffiri Precision Glock 17L Gen 1-3 Flush and Crown Ported Pistol Barrel
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G17L (LONG) Barrel - PORTED - Stainless

Barrel - Glock G17L (LONG) - PORTED - Stainless
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I have never shot a barrel ported out the top like this, not sure if it is worthwhile?

It also seems like this is the only ported barrel that is readily available to buy, I don't see any other options.
 
k3nny173 said:
The 17L clone has been a lot of fun to shoot. I would not have expected that I like it more than the G34 clones.

Anyone here have thoughts on ported barrels? Good bad yes no?????

The slide has a huge cut on the top so that I think this barrel would work

Zaffiri Precision Glock 17L Gen 1-3 Flush and Crown Ported Pistol Barrel
zaffiriprecision.com

G17L (LONG) Barrel - PORTED - Stainless

Barrel - Glock G17L (LONG) - PORTED - Stainless
zaffiriprecision.com zaffiriprecision.com

I have never shot a barrel ported out the top like this, not sure if it is worthwhile?

It also seems like this is the only ported barrel that is readily available to buy, I don't see any other options.
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That's the barrel I got for mine. But I haven't built it, yet.

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I have a long slide that friend put together as a project then sold it to me. The gun shoots beautifully. It looks something like @Racer88 's future project. Same Zaffiri slide and barrel.

Ive had an affinity for Glock long slides for quite a while. I competed very successfully with a G34 and a G35 many moons ago. I had the slide for the G35 milled for a red dot, which at the time had not won favor with many competitive pistol shooters. The ratio of eye rolls to interested match participants was about equal. How things have changed.

I still have those Glocks and I also enjoy shooting my G40. The longer slide/barrel has a noticeable effect of taming the bark of the 10mm. As do the 40 and 9mm long slides. An economical gun for getting into match competition.

Ported barrels @k3nny173 are restricted or not allowed in some competitive match circles. I'd go with a comp vs. ported barrel. If this is just a fun gun that you want to look cool... it doesn't matter.
 
The more casual competitions I shoot don't care if I have a comp or a ported barrel. They are more fun shoots and intentionally allow for a broad range of guns and accessories. I can even use glock 33 rounds mags if I wanted to, but I don't.

I have a walther pdp pro with a comp on it, the comp is always a pain in the butt when cleaning

I am trying to get my black friday gun parts list together, I think I am going to add the Zaffiri ported barrel to it and try it out. What's one more barrel :D
 
@k3nny173 That's my kind of match too. I don't enjoy the rigid, excessively rule-based kind. The officials and some competitors remind me of people who are drawn to being on their HOA board. The type who won't hum a tune without the sheet music.

Comp vs ported… In either case the benefit is subtle. I glommed onto the Magnaport trend years ago. Experts still debate its benefit. I think it works but it’s kind of like when Olympic swimmers shave off all their body hair. The edge provided by reducing drag is measured in very tiny increments.

I have a factory comp on my Hellcat. It does ever so slightly reduce muzzle flip. Easy on/easy off too.

Some modern tactical shotguns come with ported barrels now. It’s been shown to work. I have 100 + year old 12 and 16 gauge Brownings with factory installed Cutts compensators. There’s really nothing new in the gun world.

Brakes on large caliber weapons work too. You just don’t want to be standing to the side of the weapon when the trigger is pulled :).
 
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I've played with a few comps, brakes & ported barrels. All have a made a difference, but some can be felt more than others. The extended ported barrel on my Kahr K40 makes a small but noticeable difference. .40S&W is a high pressure cartridge, so I think the difference is greater than it would be with the same gun in 9mm. Handgun comps tend to make a larger felt difference, and I suspect that is largely due to the added weight way out on the tip of the barrel. My S&W 422 (.22LR) doesn't really need a comp, but the Tandemkross comp again makes a felt difference. It has well designed porting, but also hangs a lot of weight out front. Finally, the Mass Driver comp on my GST9 has both weight and ports, but then ads a mechanical aspect in by moving on a spring loaded rod. One thing that I think is inarguable is that they all look really cool! :cool:
 
I would love to be able to complete a 17L. I have two cl frames and multiple pf940v2 frames. I just need to buy the slide and barrel.
 
Here is a link to a video of the monthly steel match I shoot

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ascm4fBnk40&t=5s
(I am in this video!)

They only classify your gun by iron sights or red dot in pistol class, then there is a PCC class. No mag limits, caliber must be normal pistol calibers (so you don't damage the steels), no 22's because they can't knock over the steels.

It is 100% for fun, the couple people that came to this shoot to be 'serious' got annoyed with the majority of us not being serious and didn't come back (and no one cared). We still get 40 shooters a match that just want to have fun knocking over roughly a 100 targets. Things like guys pulling their spare mags out of pants pockets instead of from mag holders on a gun belt scared off the serious shooters :D

The other casual shoot I do is a bowling pin shoot that happens 3 times a year. I had the 17L clone and the G20 clone ready to go for the last shoot. Did great with the 17L, no so great with the G20 (did better with the G21) There is only one class that a ported or comped gun can shoot in this pin shoot, and I am ok with that. I regularly shoot in that class without a comp or port and hold my own just fine (you can shoot a lesser gun in a higher class if you want to, just not the other way around)

I tried to put a comp on a Glock 17 clone and just didn't like it (no particular reason). I am hoping a ported barrel might be more likeable, if not, its not a huge loss and I could sell that barrel.

I don't really care for my compensated Walther pistol much for a variety of reasons (contemplating selling it) part of it is I think I just don't like the comp hanging off the end of the barrel, not sure exactly why, just not my thing.
 
That looks like a lot of fun! My club has tons of steel in the conex but typically only bring out a couple of them. 😔 That stage 3 is going to be in my dreams tonight. 😆
 
k3nny173 said:
Here is a link to a video of the monthly steel match I shoot
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I never used to like the sound of ringing steel until I started shooting at it... :D

Last Sat. I went to a monthly "Action Pistol" event my club has (free to members). Run by JJ, a former and longtime Miami-Dade officer, he selflessly sets it up for us and it lasts a couple hours. He usually sets up a few stages of moderate difficulty--he doesn't make them TOO hard for the older and handicapped members.

First stage involved moving through the "doorway" to enter the "room" and take out the 2 targets with double-taps. That is JJ following another member into the room.

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Second stage was head-to-head, shooting two at the bouncy poppers in front, then knocking down the two in back, first down wins. Head shots and/or multiple shots drop the poppers quicker. :)

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Third stage was two each on the close targets, change mag then 1-2-3-1-2-3 on the rear targets.

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Monthly Action Steel in Orlando this weekend I usually go to. MUCH faster-paced and 5-6 stages, around 50-60 people.
 
Stage 1 has limits to what we can do as both plate racks are permanent in that lane
but
Stage 2 and Stage 3 are wide open to imagination and we have different people set them up each month.

I don't have a picture, but there was one setup that had a mini texas start in front of the large texas star
and
they painted the bottom plate on both stars green and made the bottom plate the start plate
(for those that don't know shooting the bottom first potentially creates more spin on the star as you go)

I like the match because it is about shooting and having fun, most of us don't care who wins.

I had someone starting to get too competitive for me on one match, so on the first stage I shot the start plate at the end on purpose. That got me about 30 seconds of penalties and a while not a guaranteed loss in this group, stopped the uber competitive nature for the rest of the shoot.

I don't care what my time is, I just want to shoot 100 targets as fast as I can :D
 
Pure awesome.
k3nny173 said:
They only classify your gun by iron sights or red dot in pistol class, then there is a PCC class. No mag limits, caliber must be normal pistol calibers (so you don't damage the steels), no 22's because they can't knock over the steels.

It is 100% for fun, the couple people that came to this shoot to be 'serious' got annoyed with the majority of us not being serious and didn't come back (and no one cared). We still get 40 shooters a match that just want to have fun knocking over roughly a 100 targets. Things like guys pulling their spare mags out of pants pockets instead of from mag holders on a gun belt scared off the serious shooters :D
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Perfect. That looks like fun. I saw no d-bags with clipboards who were parking meter officers 30 years ago making sure you are wearing an NRA approved jock strap.
 
The two guys that are primarily in charge of this match are friends of mine. I show up early and help them setup (I am grunt labor, I move steel, I paint, I don't want to think about stage design) I stay late to clean up

They also hate the people with clipboards checking to make sure you have met all the made up bullshit rules That is partly why they started this, and 100% why I help them.

Our only concerns about anything are
1. Is everyone being safe? (yes, everyone is safe at all times without crazy clipboard ROs yelling at everyone) and
2. are there enough targets? 3 stages got to be at least 25 per stage, 30 preferred.
3. Did everyone that came out to shoot have fun, if not why?? let us know and we make changes.
4. We buy a couple new targets every month to keep it interesting
 
This is what I do with my homemade guns, and why I continue to make more :)
Its also surprising to me how many people have never seen or heard about a P80
always makes for good conversation in between shooters
 

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