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Part 2: The DUI "Kill Switch".

Mandated for all new cars after 2026. Car will "monitor" your driving and have the ability to "prevent or limit motor vehicle operation" if "impairment is detected".
No details on how this will be accomplished, but maybe with AI inside? And no doubt this data will be sold to insurance companies as well.

I see an aftermarket demand for a kill switch for the kill switch...or at least instructions on how to deactivate it.

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It looks like NHTSA will be given the task of turning a vague Congressional "safety" mandate into some sure 'nuff Orwellian surveillance program.
Will other alphabet agencies get involved and add stuff they want to the electronics package? They'll be missing a golden opportunity if they don't.
 
no4mk1t said:
Part 2: The DUI "Kill Switch".

Mandated for all new cars after 2026. Car will "monitor" your driving and have the ability to "prevent or limit motor vehicle operation" if "impairment is detected".
No details on how this will be accomplished, but maybe with AI inside? And no doubt this data will be sold to insurance companies as well.

I see an aftermarket demand for a kill switch for the kill switch...or at least instructions on how to deactivate it.

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The Feds' Vehicle 'Kill Switch' Mandate Is a Gross (and Dangerous) Violation of Privacy

Over the last century, the Land of the Free has slowly transformed into a land governed by endless laws, largely by cracking down on vices instead of actual crimes, creating a society that would render us all criminals if our behavior were constantly observed. Meanwhile, the state has steadily...
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Great, some battered woman will be driving erratically while being chased by her deranged significant other and the car will stop allowing him (or her) to commence /continue the attack.
 
brian said:
Great, some battered woman will be driving erratically while being chased by her deranged significant other and the car will stop allowing him (or her) to commence /continue the attack.
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As always, unintended consequences that go far beyond the original intent.
If this is allowed to move forward, there will be more no one has thought of yet...but AI will make possible.

Will it eavesdrop on your conversation like Alexa and record everything you say to an NSA server in the desert? If it hears you say you're going to party with your friends at Tony's bar, will it tip off the cops so they can have a sobriety check point between Tony's and your house, knowing the route you will take to go home?
Of course it will be GPS enabled. Will it automatically have a speeding ticket mailed to you if you exceed the speed limit by 10 m.p.h. on an empty stretch of road at 2am when no one is around?

Lots of questions. No answers.
 
no4mk1t said:
Will it automatically have a speeding ticket mailed to you if you exceed the speed limit by 10 m.p.h. on an empty stretch of road at 2am when no one is around?
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About once a month I head to south Orlando which involves an outer "loop" toll road. I COULD go I-4 and then use regular surface streets to avoid the tolls but that would add an estimated 45 minutes to a 45 minute drive. I have an Epass so I just zoom through the toll stations and in fact, they have 3-4 lanes pass-through with an over-structure that records Epass data and/or takes pics if you choose "Toll by Plate" where they tack on a fee and send you a bill. Epass deducts a reduced toll from a balance you keep with them. My balance is at least $20 and when it drops below that it will auto-debit $10 from my account. So in other words, you NEVER have to stop for tolls.

But I ALWAYS wonder if I'm going to get a ticket in the mail when I pass under one of these over-structures "going with the flow" which may be 10-15mph higher than the limit... :unsure:
 
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But I ALWAYS wonder if I'm going to get a ticket in the mail when I pass under one of these over-structures "going with the flow" which may be 10-15mph higher than the limit..
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Nope.
 
I recently switched to State Farm insurance with the driveways app. They put a little tracker in your car and it reports your driving habits. I told my wife we really needed it, but then secretly I removed it from my truck.

But she still has it in her car so I can ridicule her driving habits
 
Pern said:
I recently switched to State Farm insurance with the driveways app. They put a little tracker in your car and it reports your driving habits. I told my wife we really needed it, but then secretly I removed it from my truck.

But she still has it in her car so I can ridicule her driving habits
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So I'm reading the news today and this article pops up on my feed.
It seems some phone apps spy on your driving now. If you don't read the fine print, and download the app, it will record your driving habits and sell the data to a third party broker who, guess what? Sells it to the insurance companies.
These three apps are mentioned in the article.
Life360
MyRadar
GasBuddy

Those Faraday bags for cell phones I see advertised are starting to look more interesting.

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Pern said:
I recently switched to State Farm insurance with the driveways app. They put a little tracker in your car and it reports your driving habits. I told my wife we really needed it, but then secretly I removed it from my truck.

But she still has it in her car so I can ridicule her driving habits
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No way I'd allow a tracker in my car. Not even for a "discount." No freakin' way. But I also cannot, for the life of me, understand why anyone would install a "smart speaker"... aka a BUG... in their own home for someone else to listen any time they want. Crazy.

Nope. Hard pass for me.
 
Never gunna happen. There might 100 politicians that dont drive drunk and those 100 are customers of Hunter Biden.

Ofcourse there's the it doesnt apply to the elite
 
Im pretty low tech last 15yrs and after many yrs of installing system's for major retailers.
Keep in mind I went in to see if my prescrptions were ready this day, thats all. In out 10min max. 50feet in front door then out.
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GM fined $12.75M after making $20M selling location and driving data to brokers. No one goes to jail and they still make $7.25M after the fine. Sounds more like an incentive than a penalty.
It looks like this only pertains to CA. Assume they are still doing it in other states.

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I have been thinking about getting one of those Alexa thingers but, I want to lock it in a sound box and loop every extremist speech a guy can get.
Torcher them with it.
24hour Hitler Mussolini just anything to mess it up.

I purchased a couple of those faraday sleeves to put my phone in when I don't think they need to know anything.

My car has the xm and the other tattler unplugged.
I bought a van 14 express and a few of you may be able to help me out.
I think it has a tracker. I'll take a pic. It's a square doohicky about the size of the end of my thumb. It's definitely added. I just don't want to mess anything up cutting wires.

I am thinking a little "hat" with magnetic strips on the bottom to hold it on.
Composed of copper, lead and which ever sheathing to block the signal.
A faraday hat.
 
meistermash said:
My car has the xm and the other tattler unplugged.
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I love love my XM radio. I'm spoiled by it. It's great on my daily commute, which is about an hour each way.

Regular radio, with its long ad breaks and DJ / morning show chatter, prank calls, etc... aaaaaaagh! So primitive and unrefined! :)
 
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Yeah i hate that morning zoo shit they put on regular radio.
Opie&anthony used to do a bit just on morning zoo radio.
O&A was ran off mostly i think because Sirus's cash cow used to be dicksucker Howie.
Its been years since i had it myself.
But we continue to have it at work.

Try the Jim&Sam show and i think Benninton still has a show
 
meistermash said:
Yeah i hate that morning zoo shit they put on regular radio.
Opie&anthony used to do a bit just on morning zoo radio.
O&A was ran off mostly i think because Sirus's cash cow used to be dicksucker Howie.
Its been years since i had it myself.
But we continue to have it at work.

Try the Jim&Sam show and i think Benninton still has a show
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I can't listen to any of that talk show crap. I just can't. I use XM for music. Lots of great rock channels.
 
I loved XM/Sirius when I had to drive a lot.
Now that I work from home I drive much less, but I just reminded myself that it's at least twice a week.
The problem is that I would need a subscription in the Corvette AND the Sierra and the regular price is way too expensive.
When I did have it I got annoyed about having to call every year to tell them to cancel, just to get them to lower the price to 5 bucks a month.

They even had a survey where they asked if having to call every year to get the discount ws a problem.
I wish I was kidding.
 
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