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But that Porsche ad….be still my beating heart!!
This ad got me to buy the 2002 Subaru WRX. Not kidding. I saw it and had to have it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7xFJ8yefRA

And I tracked the shit out of that car... and the next one, too... a 2004 Subaru WRX-STi.

The Subaru STi is still my favorite car to have ever driven (not just owned). And I've driven (but not owned) Lambos, Ferraris, McLarens, Porsches, and Lotus. Yep... The STi was the most fun car to toss around.
 
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This ad got me to buy the 2002 Subaru WRX. Not kidding. I saw it and had to have it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7xFJ8yefRA

And I tracked the shit out of that car... and the next one, too... a 2004 Subaru WRX-STi.

The Subaru STi is still my favorite car to have ever driven (not just owned). And I've driven (but not owned) Lambos, Ferraris, McLarens, Porsches, and Lotus. Yep... The STi was the most fun car to toss around.


My Dad had the non turbo all wheel drive version. I was horsing around on a back country road in MT. My 14 year old nephew was with me. It broke loose in a turn and no steering or power correction would change what was happening. I guess once a Subaru loses traction, there ain't no traction to had at any price. So we are spinning around and around. At the start of the second turn, I let go of the wheel, looked at my nephew and calmly said "I hope we stop before the ditch up there" We did stop before the ditch, just barely. He said some spicy words that I thought only salty sailors knew especially questioning my parentage. We laugh about it now. He also learned the value of staying calm and there is always time to slip a quick prayer in.
 
Thread drift!:geek:

My Dad had the non turbo all wheel drive version.
All Subarus have AWD. Literally every model they make has AWD.

The "non-turbo" version of the WRX would just be an Impreza.

I guess once a Subaru loses traction, there ain't no traction to had at any price.
If you lost control, you lost control... nothing to do with AWD. AWD has some advantages over FWD and RWD. But the laws of Physics and car handling dynamics apply nevertheless. AWD will not prevent a spin.
 
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Thread drift!:geek:


All Subarus have AWD. Literally every model they make has AWD.

The "non-turbo" version of the WRX would just be an Impreza.


If you lost control, you lost control... nothing to do with AWD. AWD has some advantages over FWD and RWD. But the laws of Physics and car handling dynamics apply nevertheless. AWD will not prevent a spin.
Last thread drift:cool:, I promise. Almost all Subarus were AWD. Up until 96 or 97? it was an option. I have a 96 and have to click on the AWD button when looking for parts.

When I say nothing worked I mean, no power on or off changed the trajectory. No braking-pedal or hand brake changed the trajectory. The car was like it was on black ice once it broke loose. And it let go without any warning. Tenacious grip until it had none. Never experienced anything like it before. I can make a car drift but once the Subaru let go, I was along for the ride. If you raced them and could control it, my hat is off to you. I was used to FWD where I could under steer or over steer with throttle. Operator error for sure. I did drive my 96 for a hundred miles on black ice covered by light snow. Nobody else on the road but trucks with chains. Never slipped once but stayed at 20-25 MPH. It was faster than walking and it was really cold out.

Back on topic. Biden can try to reduce gun sales but I think I may make a trip to my LGS to do my best to defy his wishes. I'm thinking something like a M&P. Never had one of those. Just have to narrow down the caliber, size and configuration to get. M&P 10mm? That could be fun.
 
Almost all Subarus were AWD. Up until 96 or 97? it was an option.
I just googled it. Yep... 1996 is when AWD became standard. I thought AWD was always standard for Subarus. My first Subie was the 2002 WRX.

When I say nothing worked I mean, no power on or off changed the trajectory. No braking-pedal or hand brake changed the trajectory. The car was like it was on black ice once it broke loose. And it let go without any warning. Tenacious grip until it had none. Never experienced anything like it before.
What type of surface were you on? Unpaved / paved?

Once ANY car is in a spin, you're along for the ride until it comes to a stop. When I was doing the track thing, the saying was "in a spin - both feet in" (clutch and brake applied fully). I only spun once, and that was in the Formula Dodge car at Skip Barber's Racing School. (stock photo)
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I never spun my Subaru. (real photo of me)
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If you raced them and could control it, my hat is off to you. I was used to FWD where I could under steer or over steer with throttle.
I could fine-tune the attitude (under / over-steer) with the throttle in my STi. But never "drifted" it. Drifting is slower than DRIVING through the turns. And "drifting" would be frowned upon (and probably reprimanded) at the track events I attended. We could have 30+ cars on the track at the same time.

With front engine configuration, AWD, and 300-hp on tap, I found it to be very easily controlled. Much easier than a mid-engine or rear-engine RWD car. The STi was a fantastic car. Nothing out there could beat it for the money... or even double or triple the money. I could give the Porsche 911s fits on the track. :devilish:
 
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@Racer88, The Subaru fan in you will find this interesting.
John Reynolds is a fabrication wizard. In this video, he essentially re-engineered a Super Beetle to take a WRX engine of over 500 h.p.
There are other vids on his channel about the build and its performance at the drag strip.
I would love to have this car for a day just to mess with the Mustangs and Camaros...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzB1Vc1h-Tc
 
@Racer88, The Subaru fan in you will find this interesting.
John Reynolds is a fabrication wizard. In this video, he essentially re-engineered a Super Beetle to take a WRX engine of over 500 h.p.
There are other vids on his channel about the build and its performance at the drag strip.
I would love to have this car for a day just to mess with the Mustangs and Camaros...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzB1Vc1h-Tc

Very cool. I bet it understeers like crazy with that weight distribution.

I miss that "boxer growl." Some day I want another one!

PS... Growing up, our "family car" was a 1968 Robin's Egg Blue VW Beetle.
 
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There's another video where he weighs it.
With 1/2 tank of fuel, the car weighs 2250lbs.
The weight distribution is 38/61 front/rear with no driver or passenger.

With the driver, distribution is 40/60 front/rear.
With full fuel and a passenger, I'm guessing it will be close to 45/55.
VW owners have put a sandbag in the front for decades to improve the handling. Some well place lead ballast would help.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgI0-7nsyRo
 
There's another video where he weighs it.
With 1/2 tank of fuel, the car weighs 2250lbs.
The weight distribution is 38/61 front/rear with no driver or passenger.

With the driver, distribution is 40/60 front/rear.
With full fuel and a passenger, I'm guessing it will be close to 45/55.
VW owners have put a sandbag in the front for decades to improve the handling. Some well place lead ballast would help.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgI0-7nsyRo

I thought I saw a fuel cell in the "back seat" area in the first video (vs the normal front gas tank location in the factory car).
 
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I thought I saw a fuel cell in the "back seat" area in the first video (vs the normal front gas tank location in the factory car).
Fuel tank is the factory tank in the factory location.
He fabbed the aluminum sheet metal where the rear seat used to be. The engine encroached on that area. He had to move the engine/trans forward to make everything fit and maintain that sleeper look.
 
Other thing you can do with a subaru engine....


View: https://youtu.be/gdfjh5LZC90

Much like what we used to do to VW engines for about the same reasons... light weight, reasonably compact. Though, you have to use a reduction gear (more weight) to spin a useful prop with the tips staying subsonic. And it is still has to have liquid cooling (more weight). But still reasonable.
 
This ad got me to buy the 2002 Subaru WRX. Not kidding. I saw it and had to have it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7xFJ8yefRA

And I tracked the shit out of that car... and the next one, too... a 2004 Subaru WRX-STi.

The Subaru STi is still my favorite car to have ever driven (not just owned). And I've driven (but not owned) Lambos, Ferraris, McLarens, Porsches, and Lotus. Yep... The STi was the most fun car to toss around.

Fucking Jeez mang! Subaru huh?
So many questions.

How many climate change bumper stickers are on it? Did you remove the "Feel The Bern" sticker after he bailed out and was paid off with a new home? Don't you feel double-crossed by him? How can you sleep at night living the double life of a firearms owner and a bleeding heart liberal? How did you get the dealer to even sell you one with your CCW printing through your shirt? Are you parking it in the fast lane staring blankly down the road?

Even Babylon Bee has weighed in on this topic about Subaru owners and not being a true owner unless you have more than
48 stickers on the back.


Pathetic Excuse For A Subaru Owner Only Has 48 Stickers On Back Of Car

Life · May 25, 2022 · BabylonBee.com

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PORTLAND, OR - Multiple independent reports have confirmed that Portland resident Allie Peck has become the laughingstock of her drum circle this week after she pulled up in a Subaru with an embarrassingly low 48 stickers on the back.

"You're missing some of the basics - you don't even have '#RESIST' or 'Think Globally, Act Locally' or 'Well-Behaved Women Rarely Make History' - this is Subaru 101, man!" Allie's friend, hacky-sack instructor Dan "Free Solo" Kirk, cackled at Allie's weak showing. Eyewitnesses say the interchange caused one of the dirtier hippies to tumble off a nearby slackline, creating a chain reaction that knocked off several Rastafarian hats and overturned a bong.

Another Portland resident and friend of Allie's, Richard "Hike N' Bike" Coeur, went further, questioning her commitment to progressivism. "This is a travesty, man - with all the stickers you're forgetting, you might as well have a crusty McCain-Palin sticker from '08!" Mr. Coeur added that even Peck's strategy needed work and that Peck had gone through several rounds of stickers in the same place on the car's rusty body while still leaving several square inches of the window untouched - "an absolute waste!"
Online Subaru owner forums provide unambiguous guidelines for sticker-to-window ratios, with the key requirement being that at least 90% of the back window must be opaque from filth, gum-marks, and cracked stickers. Allowable decorations include stickers for "I'd Rather Be Driving My Hybrid" and "I Tripped Acid In Sedona" and "Free The Nipple." The guidelines do allow for discretionary decorations, provided they are "anything that would make a Ford F-150 driver flinch."

At publishing time, Mx. Peck tried to improve her situation by adding a couple "Feel The Bern" stickers, but they were later stolen by some other Bernie supporters.


Mark A. Morris
10/11/2018 16:16:48

I think that bumper stickers are like people. They can be either funny or dull, informative or annoying, and they're always a snapshot of what the driver/owner of the car believes. I think there's a place for them - they can raise a smile when you're stuck in a queue behind the car in front - although I'd not advise trying to read them when you're on a motorway (or freeway) driving at the speed limit. They're a little like book covers, in the same way as you can gauge a person by what he (or she) is reading, so I'd be sorry if they died out due to either apathy or legislation.

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Fucking Jeez mang! Subaru huh?
So many questions.

How many climate change bumper stickers are on it? Did you remove the "Feel The Bern" sticker after he bailed out and was paid off with a new home? Don't you feel double-crossed by him? How can you sleep at night living the double life of a firearms owner and a bleeding heart liberal? How did you get the dealer to even sell you one with your CCW printing through your shirt? Are you parking it in the fast lane staring blankly down the road?

Even Babylon Bee has weighed in on this topic about Subaru owners and not being a true owner unless you have more than
48 stickers on the back.


Pathetic Excuse For A Subaru Owner Only Has 48 Stickers On Back Of Car

Life · May 25, 2022 · BabylonBee.com

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PORTLAND, OR - Multiple independent reports have confirmed that Portland resident Allie Peck has become the laughingstock of her drum circle this week after she pulled up in a Subaru with an embarrassingly low 48 stickers on the back.

"You're missing some of the basics - you don't even have '#RESIST' or 'Think Globally, Act Locally' or 'Well-Behaved Women Rarely Make History' - this is Subaru 101, man!" Allie's friend, hacky-sack instructor Dan "Free Solo" Kirk, cackled at Allie's weak showing. Eyewitnesses say the interchange caused one of the dirtier hippies to tumble off a nearby slackline, creating a chain reaction that knocked off several Rastafarian hats and overturned a bong.

Another Portland resident and friend of Allie's, Richard "Hike N' Bike" Coeur, went further, questioning her commitment to progressivism. "This is a travesty, man - with all the stickers you're forgetting, you might as well have a crusty McCain-Palin sticker from '08!" Mr. Coeur added that even Peck's strategy needed work and that Peck had gone through several rounds of stickers in the same place on the car's rusty body while still leaving several square inches of the window untouched - "an absolute waste!"
Online Subaru owner forums provide unambiguous guidelines for sticker-to-window ratios, with the key requirement being that at least 90% of the back window must be opaque from filth, gum-marks, and cracked stickers. Allowable decorations include stickers for "I'd Rather Be Driving My Hybrid" and "I Tripped Acid In Sedona" and "Free The Nipple." The guidelines do allow for discretionary decorations, provided they are "anything that would make a Ford F-150 driver flinch."

At publishing time, Mx. Peck tried to improve her situation by adding a couple "Feel The Bern" stickers, but they were later stolen by some other Bernie supporters.




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How moronic unless you plan to own it until it falls apart. It has to completely destroy the resale value of the car even if you find a buyer who aligns with those stickers. I don't even want the name of the dealer I bought it from stuck to my car.
 
@Racer88, The Subaru fan in you will find this interesting.
John Reynolds is a fabrication wizard. In this video, he essentially re-engineered a Super Beetle to take a WRX engine of over 500 h.p.
There are other vids on his channel about the build and its performance at the drag strip.
I would love to have this car for a day just to mess with the Mustangs and Camaros...


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzB1Vc1h-Tc

In high school, I put the Crown conversion kit on a 1966 beetle and bolted a Corvair Monza Spyder motor on it. It was crazy fast. The weak link was the VW transaxle. I had to choose to move the ring gear or add a different cam and make other mods to get the Corvair engine to run the opposite way. Corvairs run counterclockwise. VWs Clockwise. Modifying the trans was easier.

I could light the back tires up. Until the transaxle exploded. I put a junkyard trans in it then sold it.
 
How moronic unless you plan to own it until it falls apart. It has to completely destroy the resale value of the car even if you find a buyer who aligns with those stickers. I don't even want the name of the dealer I bought it from stuck to my car.

Well, that about sums up the "activist" community anyway, whether they are driving a subie or not. They are morons. Every time I get the "raise awareness for blah blah blah" shoved in my face I want to shove back... maybe the last thing you should ever want to do is raise my awareness... the results might be hazardous.

Meanwhile, I do pretty much the same thing Brian is doing... my Outback is devoid of everything, including the dealer logos... why should I give them free advertising? Now that I'm past the 100K mile mark, I'm probably going to remove all the Subaru logos from it as well. It might even get a rattle-can camo paint job to blend into the scenery on the farm.

I did keep the freebie "1st" Subaru disk. But the selection of "lifestyle icons" offered by Subaru is pathetic. Nothing related to Aviation, Boats, Motorcycles or Marksmanship. Most of what they offer are a bunch of weak hobbies to go with the rainbow flag. (I really should 3D print a few obscene and obnoxious lifestyle icons of my own.)
 
Fucking Jeez mang! Subaru huh?
So many questions.

How many climate change bumper stickers are on it? Did you remove the "Feel The Bern" sticker after he bailed out and was paid off with a new home? Don't you feel double-crossed by him? How can you sleep at night living the double life of a firearms owner and a bleeding heart liberal? How did you get the dealer to even sell you one with your CCW printing through your shirt? Are you parking it in the fast lane staring blankly down the road?

Even Babylon Bee has weighed in on this topic about Subaru owners and not being a true owner unless you have more than
48 stickers on the back.


Pathetic Excuse For A Subaru Owner Only Has 48 Stickers On Back Of Car

Life · May 25, 2022 · BabylonBee.com

Article Image



PORTLAND, OR - Multiple independent reports have confirmed that Portland resident Allie Peck has become the laughingstock of her drum circle this week after she pulled up in a Subaru with an embarrassingly low 48 stickers on the back.

"You're missing some of the basics - you don't even have '#RESIST' or 'Think Globally, Act Locally' or 'Well-Behaved Women Rarely Make History' - this is Subaru 101, man!" Allie's friend, hacky-sack instructor Dan "Free Solo" Kirk, cackled at Allie's weak showing. Eyewitnesses say the interchange caused one of the dirtier hippies to tumble off a nearby slackline, creating a chain reaction that knocked off several Rastafarian hats and overturned a bong.

Another Portland resident and friend of Allie's, Richard "Hike N' Bike" Coeur, went further, questioning her commitment to progressivism. "This is a travesty, man - with all the stickers you're forgetting, you might as well have a crusty McCain-Palin sticker from '08!" Mr. Coeur added that even Peck's strategy needed work and that Peck had gone through several rounds of stickers in the same place on the car's rusty body while still leaving several square inches of the window untouched - "an absolute waste!"
Online Subaru owner forums provide unambiguous guidelines for sticker-to-window ratios, with the key requirement being that at least 90% of the back window must be opaque from filth, gum-marks, and cracked stickers. Allowable decorations include stickers for "I'd Rather Be Driving My Hybrid" and "I Tripped Acid In Sedona" and "Free The Nipple." The guidelines do allow for discretionary decorations, provided they are "anything that would make a Ford F-150 driver flinch."

At publishing time, Mx. Peck tried to improve her situation by adding a couple "Feel The Bern" stickers, but they were later stolen by some other Bernie supporters.




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You don't know much about the WRX or STI? My STI put out 300 hp from the factory. 0 - 60 in under 4.5 seconds.... Bone stock. My average fuel "efficiency" was about 16 mpg. NOT a car for liberal greenies!

I actually calculated the fuel mileage on the track... 5 mpg! Yeah... FIVE. So, about 2 laps per gallon at the local track! LOL!

To be fair... The WRX/STI is an obscure car. Most people don't know about Subaru's performance division or racing heritage. They only know about the hippie-mobiles.

The Porsche 911 owners sure learned about them quickly on the track!
 
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I drove a friend's spec Miata a few times at the track. Loads of fun.
 
I drove a friend's spec Miata a few times at the track. Loads of fun.
Spec Miatas... or even bone stock street Miatas are formidable cars on the track, especially in the right (driver's) hands. I've seen good drivers in Miatas run CIRCLES around not-so-talented drivers in Corvettes. Not kidding.
 
Spec Miatas... or even bone stock street Miatas are formidable cars on the track, especially in the right (driver's) hands. I've seen good drivers in Miatas run CIRCLES around not-so-talented drivers in Corvettes. Not kidding.
My buddy was obsessed with Miatas. He had one or more of every generation. His spec Miata was very cool. He put a lot of work into it. I was rather surprised at how well it did on the track (Elkhart, Indiana). I haven't done any sports car racing, rally, or any other. Just driven a few cars around tracks a few times. It's a lot of fun pushing a car to its limits and not having to worry about getting a ticket. :)
 
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