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Fulton Armory has been making new M1 Carbines with billet receivers.
They have a new version called the M3 Scout Carbine with a threaded barrel and a Picatinny hand guard.
Barrel is chrome lined and threaded 9/16X24 and comes with an AR style F/H.

Dunno what it can do that 300BLK can't do better, but it looks like fun.
Like with all things from Fulton Armory, if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it.
The barrel and hand guard are available separately if you want to build your own.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHlVLFbPWl4
 
Fulton Armory has been making new M1 Carbines with billet receivers.
They have a new version called the M3 Scout Carbine with a threaded barrel and a Picatinny hand guard.
Barrel is chrome lined and threaded 9/16X24 and comes with an AR style F/H.

Dunno what it can do that 300BLK can't do better, but it looks like fun.
Like with all things from Fulton Armory, if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it.
The barrel and hand guard are available separately if you want to build your own.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHlVLFbPWl4

Maybe in .350 legend??? That might be a hoot.
 
Fulton Armory has been making new M1 Carbines with billet receivers.
They have a new version called the M3 Scout Carbine with a threaded barrel and a Picatinny hand guard.
Barrel is chrome lined and threaded 9/16X24 and comes with an AR style F/H.

Dunno what it can do that 300BLK can't do better, but it looks like fun.
Like with all things from Fulton Armory, if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it.
The barrel and hand guard are available separately if you want to build your own.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHlVLFbPWl4

Lots of gas in the face
 
Lots of gas in the face
I saw that.
Needs a reflex can with the volume to handle the gas.
Looks cool, but I'm struggling to find the nitch that it fills.
I'm thinking this is 60 years too late. The days of cheap Carbines and surplus ammo are gone.
 
There was a guy at the range who insisted we fire his M1-Carby. He was very proud of it. ;) I've fired my uncle's on many occasions and while a nice shooting gun overall, it doesn't do anything for me. :cool: Especially at 7yds. :rolleyes: My dot hadn't fired one so I had her use my turn.

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I have a Springfield SOCOM 16 (love it) and had a Mini 30 (it was OK, not great). Also a Mini 14, which I upgraded with a better barrel. I have never dived into the M1 pool although I've been tempted. I've shot them many times and have a profound respect for the gun but I just never bought one. I have a few vintage infantry rifles... Russian, Chicom, Swiss, Italian. They are all wall hangers. A vintage M1 is too expensive to be wall art. I think that is probably the source of my persistent hesitation. 2-3 grand minimum for a nice one.

Respect to the manly men who carried them in the South Pacific, Korea and across Europe. 11 lbs with the bayonet.
 
I have Korean War bring back a Airforce Captain had. They are awesome little rifles. I plan on doing some hunting with it. Just everytime I get it out I think about Me, the woods, a 98% M1 Carbine and it not coming back 98%. So back it goes lol.
 
I have Korean War bring back a Airforce Captain had. They are awesome little rifles. I plan on doing some hunting with it. Just everytime I get it out I think about Me, the woods, a 98% M1 Carbine and it not coming back 98%. So back it goes lol.
I take an AR10 (DPMS) 308 that I customized for hog hunting and my Tikka Lightweight 7mm for elk. I havent been deer hunting in quite a few years. I like the Tikka because most elk hunting involves hard, long hikes in rough terrain, often at altitude. Every ounce feels like a pound. The Tikka is light and the 7mm Rem makes 300 yard shots ethical. It's been a while since was hunting elk as well. Hog hunting is usually once a year, sometimes two.

I have a newer, lighter AR for hogs but havent used it yet. The DPMS is great but heavy as Hell.
 
A vintage M1 is too expensive to be wall art. I think that is probably the source of my persistent hesitation. 2-3 grand minimum for a nice one.
You can buy one from the CMP for much less than that. These are meant for shooting. They are not collector grade rifles.

I think the Custom Shop rifle is the best value. You get a completely rebuilt/refinished rifle with a trigger job for $1650.

Here are the current choices.
Expert Grade:
USGI reclaimed receiver. Either Springfield or H&R.
Caliber: 308 Winchester, or 30-06.
New wood.
New barrel.
If you want fresh parkerizing, add $285.
$1150

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Custom Shop Special
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Newly manufactured;
New forged receiver.
New barrel in either 308 Winchester or 30-06.
New wood.
New gas cylinder.
Small parts are some USGI and some newly made.
$1900.
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I have Korean War bring back a Airforce Captain had. They are awesome little rifles. I plan on doing some hunting with it. Just everytime I get it out I think about Me, the woods, a 98% M1 Carbine and it not coming back 98%. So back it goes lol.
Inland and Auto-Ordnance (Kahr) are making new M1 Carbines in the $1100-$1400 range if you want one to shoot.
 
You can buy one from the CMP for much less than that. These are meant for shooting. They are not collector grade rifles.
A few years back there was a guy on the local gun trader website (yes, they allow that here in FL) with a '67ish National Match M1 from CMP with a pile of supporting documents, bill of sale, etc. I think he wanted like $2000 firm. Not in the market or having the funds, I messaged him to let him know that was a sweet deal and I'd certainly be a buyer if I had the $. He messaged back saying he was considering taking it off the market because people were low-balling him with sub-$1000 offers. :rolleyes: What do you all think? Worth the money?

Back OT, I've seen the carbines go for the $800 range with ammo. This clip is the latest from the aforementioned gun trader search.

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M1 NM guns are hard to prove without documentation. Some of them were built on new receivers, but there were also a bunch built on WW2 receivers. The guns were also sent back to Springfield Armory each year and rebuilt as necessary. So serial numbers as a means to identify NM M1's is largely useless. A NM M1 could have a receiver from any manufacturer from any era.

Also, the NM program was research in progress. Collectors have given names to the early and late guns as Type 1 and Type 2, but improvements were continuous and there is no definitive break between the two.
All guns had fresh parkerizing and new wood. Every effort was made to make the guns look brand new, even if they were built on a WW2 receiver.

Early Type 1 guns have fitted and clearanced woodwork, no glass bedding, NM marked sight base with fine windage adjustments, bushed rear sight aperture, NM marked gas cylinder, NM marked barrel, and a tuned trigger.

Type 2 guns had all of the above plus early fiberglass resin type glass bedding, NM/2A sight base with hooded rear aperture. Later Type 2's had a NM op rod.

There are also transitional guns that have features from both types.

It should be understood that except for the sights, and later the op rod, all of the parts were standard USGI parts selected and fitted by skilled armorers. All the NM barrels were new issue barrels selected by air gauging them. Gas cylinders were gauged and selected for being minimum ID. Op rods were selected based on the piston being max OD and for straightness.
The rest was just skilled fitting by the armorers.

Then you have rifles built by skilled military match armorers for the military service rifle teams or for a civilian on his own rifle. These of course will shoot equal or better than the Springfield Armory originals but are not going to have the collector value.

So, $2K for a documented M1NM that is in good condition and not worn out is in the ball park if you want a collector's item. If you intend to buy, do your research and get a throat gage and muzzle wear gage.
 
So, $2K for a documented M1NM that is in good condition and not worn out is in the ball park if you want a collector's item. If you intend to buy, do your research and get a throat gage and muzzle wear gage.

I saved the ad and the pics for reference...

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Inland and Auto-Ordnance (Kahr) are making new M1 Carbines in the $1100-$1400 range if you want one to shoot.
I do take it out to range, make sure it still works lol.
Keep toying with idea of making a 10mm. That would be cool. Think 350 Legend is too long.
1 of my uncles always carried 1 around for hogs when I was a kid. Perfect 1st rifle.
 
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