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I leased my M3. When I turned it in the 'assessor' did his thing and said the tires needed to be replaced, one wheel had some small scratches in it and there were a couple of marks in the paint. Like scuffs. The leasing manager then tells me to write a check. I told him to fuck off. I walk over to the office of the sales guy who leased me the car and told him to call the general manager who runs the whole operation. He came by to glad hand me when I signed for the most expensive car they had on the lot at the time. The GM enters the room.What crazy is that we could not afford to buy the house we currently live in at today's prices and interest rates. With a 20% down payment, if we bought it at today's value and interest rates, our monthly payment would be 2.75 times what we now pay every month.
The exact 1-bedroom apartment I used to rent 30 years ago... today's rent exceeds my current mortgage payment.
I don't see ANY way a young couple starting out could ever afford to buy a house. And unless things change drastically, the average family will literally never be able to buy a house. They'll never catch up. No bueno!
The mileage allowance is the big problem. Unless you're the proverbial old lady driving on Sundays to church... They're going to nail you for excess mileage fees. My new car just hit 15,000 miles today after owning it for 11 months. I used to drive far more than that when my son was playing hockey. One year I put about 30k on my Toyota Camry.
I could never lease, because even THINKING about how many miles I put on the car would drive me freakin' bananas. I'd hate that. "Sorry, Honey... we can't take my car on our trip to South Carolina... too many miles." Aaaaaaaaaaaagh!
The leases can also ding you for... well... dings and other "damage" to the car. I either OWN the car, or I don't. And I don't want to drive someone else's car. While I did buy a new car this year, the best bargain ever was my used 2011 Camry purchased in 2013 with 32k on the clock. Sold it still running perfectly with 214K miles. That car was the most cost effective car I will have ever owned.
But, yeah... if you buy and then trade a car in after 2 - 3 years, you're gonna get killed.
I very calmly told him the car was low mileage and the records will show all the maintenance was done. I went on to say I had bought or leased three cars from them in the past 5 years and this penalty was an insult. I also told him my friends, clients and colleagues buy and lease cars here and I was certain he cares more about the dealer's reputation than I do about my own. I have been a good customer and I feel like your leasing guy is trying to fuck me. Then I stopped talking.
He said fine. No charge. I walk out.
I refuse to give in to that shit. Like I said, it's a racket and you as the customer are the sucker. It is different with luxury cars and fancy dealers who have a smoking hot concierge serve you bagels and lattes while you wait. If you lease a cheap car and bring it back beat up, you have no leverage. They don't care if you never come back and they know you won't call your lawyer. Because you probably don't have one. Nobody said life is fair. The guy who can least afford to bend over gets the shaft.
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