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Vac Bagging Ammunition...
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How does one figure out how much is excess ammo? I need to have at least a pile right? I don't even have a stockpile
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Ok, "excess" may not be the best choice of words... 
Seriously, I am storing all the ammunition that I don't expect to be used in the next few months. Tonight I finished a batch of 9mm reloading. 500 rounds of 115gr FMJ. All the 9mm magazines are loaded. I've got enough boxed to reload all the magazines twice over, so there is no near-term need for this batch reloads. Hunting season is here, which means I have to curtail my own range use until springtime. So, all the rounds got vacuum bagged and put in an ammo can.
The vac bags are more compact than storing them in boxes. Although, I am a little disappointed with the bags. All of them failed already. The sealing seam is holding, but the bags are leaking. I haven't been able to see where the leak is happening, I'm thinking the sharp edges of the brass. I might have to go looking for thicker bags.
Seriously, I am storing all the ammunition that I don't expect to be used in the next few months. Tonight I finished a batch of 9mm reloading. 500 rounds of 115gr FMJ. All the 9mm magazines are loaded. I've got enough boxed to reload all the magazines twice over, so there is no near-term need for this batch reloads. Hunting season is here, which means I have to curtail my own range use until springtime. So, all the rounds got vacuum bagged and put in an ammo can.
The vac bags are more compact than storing them in boxes. Although, I am a little disappointed with the bags. All of them failed already. The sealing seam is holding, but the bags are leaking. I haven't been able to see where the leak is happening, I'm thinking the sharp edges of the brass. I might have to go looking for thicker bags.
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Pardon my ignorance... what does hunting season have to do with range time?
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People out in the woods. Right now is archery season, so they don't have to wear day-glo orange either. I don't remember which PA game law it is, but target practice is not allowed except on Sundays or at clubs and public ranges. There are a few people specifically allowed to hunt on my property, but there is always to off-chance that someone tracking a wounded deer could wander into the line of fire.
Edit: Did a few minutes of digging and found a better explanation from someone else:
Target Practice On Your Own Property - Pennsylvania Law Abiding Gun Owner Blog
Attorney Justin McShane target shooting at Harrisburg Hunters’ & Anglers’ Association. Target Practice On Your Own Property Target practice is an important part of any shooter’s training. Many law abiding gun owners (LAGOs) carry firearms, or keep firearms in their homes, with the intent of...
The example more or less fits the scenario here.... small farm, lottsa trees, and while I do have a pretty good backstopped an marked out range, it would be subject to the interpretation of the local Game Commissioner were I to put it to the test. So, I just do what my family, and my neighbors, have done for as long as I can remember... don't do target practice on days when hunting season is on.
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First, use HD poly tubing. Trying to cheap out and use Ziploc bags won't work. Good enough for your ham and cheese, but not for what we're talking about here.
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Use an impulse sealer appropriate to the size tubing used.
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Doesn't hurt to throw in a couple of desiccant packs, especially if it's humid when you're doing the sealing. Or at least coat the metal with an anti rust agent.
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Experiment with the sealer setting to get a good seal. Too hot, and the edges melt and leak. Not hot enough, and you can pull the seal apart.
If the object has sharp corners, pad the sharp parts with tape so they don't poke a hole in the bag.
To make sure a good seal is achieved, I double seal as illustrated.
Cut the tubing a bit longer than needed to accommodate the contents.
Insert the items.
Double seal each corner. (Sharpie used for photographic purposes.)
Then use the crevice tool on your vacuum cleaner to suck the air out and seal the end when the tubing is fully compressed against the contents. This is why you cut the tubing long, so there is room for the crevice tool and the impulse sealer. You can trim it shorter after sealing.
Using this method, the seal is maintained even if the edges melt through.
If there's interest, I can seal up some items for show and tell.
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Use an impulse sealer appropriate to the size tubing used.
Tabletop Impulse Sealers in Stock - ULINE
Uline stocks a wide selection of Tabletop Impulse Sealers. Order by 6 p.m. for same day shipping. Huge Catalog! Over 41,000 products in stock. 13 Locations across USA, Canada and Mexico for fast delivery of Tabletop Impulse Sealers.
www.uline.com
Doesn't hurt to throw in a couple of desiccant packs, especially if it's humid when you're doing the sealing. Or at least coat the metal with an anti rust agent.
Desiccant, Desiccant Packs in Stock - ULINE - Uline
Uline stocks a wide selection of Desiccant, Desiccant Packs and Desiccant Bags. Order by 6 pm for same day shipping. Huge Catalog! Over 41,000 products in stock. 13 locations across USA, Canada and Mexico for fast delivery of Desiccants.
www.uline.com
Experiment with the sealer setting to get a good seal. Too hot, and the edges melt and leak. Not hot enough, and you can pull the seal apart.
If the object has sharp corners, pad the sharp parts with tape so they don't poke a hole in the bag.
To make sure a good seal is achieved, I double seal as illustrated.
Cut the tubing a bit longer than needed to accommodate the contents.
Insert the items.
Double seal each corner. (Sharpie used for photographic purposes.)
Then use the crevice tool on your vacuum cleaner to suck the air out and seal the end when the tubing is fully compressed against the contents. This is why you cut the tubing long, so there is room for the crevice tool and the impulse sealer. You can trim it shorter after sealing.
Using this method, the seal is maintained even if the edges melt through.
If there's interest, I can seal up some items for show and tell.
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Yes please would love a video showing this.First, use HD poly tubing. Trying to cheap out and use Ziploc bags won't work. Good enough for your ham and cheese, but not for what we're talking about here.
6 Mil Heavy Duty Poly Tubing in Stock - ULINE
Uline stocks a wide selection of 6 Mil Heavy Duty Poly Tubing. Order by 6 p.m. for same day shipping. Huge Catalog! Over 41,000 products in stock. 13 Locations across USA, Canada and Mexico for fast delivery of 6 Mil Heavy Duty Poly Tubing.
Use an impulse sealer appropriate to the size tubing used.
Tabletop Impulse Sealers in Stock - ULINE
Uline stocks a wide selection of Tabletop Impulse Sealers. Order by 6 p.m. for same day shipping. Huge Catalog! Over 41,000 products in stock. 13 Locations across USA, Canada and Mexico for fast delivery of Tabletop Impulse Sealers.
Doesn't hurt to throw in a couple of desiccant packs, especially if it's humid when you're doing the sealing. Or at least coat the metal with an anti rust agent.
Desiccant, Desiccant Packs in Stock - ULINE - Uline
Uline stocks a wide selection of Desiccant, Desiccant Packs and Desiccant Bags. Order by 6 pm for same day shipping. Huge Catalog! Over 41,000 products in stock. 13 locations across USA, Canada and Mexico for fast delivery of Desiccants.
Experiment with the sealer setting to get a good seal. Too hot, and the edges melt and leak. Not hot enough, and you can pull the seal apart.
If the object has sharp corners, pad the sharp parts with tape so they don't poke a hole in the bag.
To make sure a good seal is achieved, I double seal as illustrated.
Cut the tubing a bit longer than needed to accommodate the contents.
Insert the items.
Double seal each corner. (Sharpie used for photographic purposes.)
View attachment 6664
Then use the crevice tool on your vacuum cleaner to suck the air out and seal the end when the tubing is fully compressed against the contents. This is why you cut the tubing long, so there is room for the crevice tool and the impulse sealer. You can trim it shorter after sealing.
Using this method, the seal is maintained even if the edges melt through.
View attachment 6665
If there's interest, I can seal up some items for show and tell.
OK, this turned out to be one of things were you need 3 hands to do it, so no pics of it being done.
Remember I said to experiment with the heat setting? Here's why.
This is what happens when the setting is too low for the thickness of the tubing. You can easily pull the heat seam apart.
Turning the control knob up one setting number gives a seam that won't pull apart. The plastic rips before the seam fails.
The reason for diagonally sealing the corners is evident. The sealer melts through the plastic at the end of the heating element.
Desi-Paks if the item might rust.
These can be recharged in the oven to remove whatever moisture they might have absorbed. The small white ones that come in electronics can also be recharged, but the pouch is Tyvek and an oven setting that does not exceed 245° is required so the pouch doesn't melt.
Insert the contents. Try to make the opening as small as the crevice attachment on your vacuum allows. This where the 3 hands comes in. The vacuum tends to wrinkle the plastic. It needs to be held taught while sealing.
My crevice attachment. Made for getting under/behind appliances.
The end result. Bagged yesterday. Still holding vacuum.
Remember I said to experiment with the heat setting? Here's why.
This is what happens when the setting is too low for the thickness of the tubing. You can easily pull the heat seam apart.
Turning the control knob up one setting number gives a seam that won't pull apart. The plastic rips before the seam fails.
The reason for diagonally sealing the corners is evident. The sealer melts through the plastic at the end of the heating element.
Desi-Paks if the item might rust.
These can be recharged in the oven to remove whatever moisture they might have absorbed. The small white ones that come in electronics can also be recharged, but the pouch is Tyvek and an oven setting that does not exceed 245° is required so the pouch doesn't melt.
Insert the contents. Try to make the opening as small as the crevice attachment on your vacuum allows. This where the 3 hands comes in. The vacuum tends to wrinkle the plastic. It needs to be held taught while sealing.
My crevice attachment. Made for getting under/behind appliances.
The end result. Bagged yesterday. Still holding vacuum.