Will this interfere with anything?

[DisGuyLolLmao]

So, while sanding down the channel of a project I just started working on, I accidentally shaved a little bit of this part of the frame. I worked on many projects before, but haven’t had this happen; So I ask, will this mess up the entire build?

Note: I don't have any of the internals and I also don't have the slide so I wont be able to test it myself.

Thanks.

 

[GSW10]

Nope, you are fine. The RSA should still have plenty of material there to rest on. Just clean it up without taking more material off...

 

[Racer88]

Looks like the edges of the slide lock spring slot got boogered up a bit. I don't think that would interfere with function. Like @GSW10 said... just clean it up and keep going.

I'm guessing you slipped with the dremel. My advice would be to go slowly. Use light pressure. Make sure you use rests to stabilize your hands. Secure the frame so it can't move around. You might like this:

https://www.patriotgunbuilders.com/forums/resources/how-to-not-booger-up-your-80-pistol-frame.1/

Welcome and thanks for joining. Stop by the Introduce Yourself! section and drop us a message about yourself.

 

[Callducks7]

Did you use a saw blade?

 

[Michele]

Did you use a saw blade?

Not funny.
Putting people down is unacceptable.That’s not the way to mentor and help new builders. Everyone makes mistakes. Builders should feel OK about asking for assistance without being berated or criticized.

 

[Callducks7]

Not funny.
Putting people down is unacceptable.That’s not the way to mentor and help new builders. Everyone makes mistakes. Builders should feel OK about asking for assistance without being berated or criticized.

Your critiques are tiresome. Obviously no sense of humor. You are waaaay overreacting. If you don't like me, block me. Other thin skinned people have.

 

[Racer88]

Did you use a saw blade?

I think was intended as humor / sarcasm. Maybe add some advice and some smileys.

Not funny.
Putting people down is unacceptable.That’s not the way to mentor and help new builders. Everyone makes mistakes. Builders should feel OK about asking for assistance without being berated or criticized.

Yeah... I admit that I sometimes bite my lip. As a person with "hand skills," it's easy to scoff or criticize the work of others. Sometimes my jaw drops when I look at a "finished" channel or tabs.

But, I've learned to temper my snobbery. Not everyone has the dexterity or experience working with their hands that I have.

And, it's easy to slip! Ask me how I know! I've also learned that working with plastic is VERY different than other materials like metal, wood, etc.... making it easier to slip or "booger it up." Again, ask me how I know! LOL! One thing I learned about plastic is that it can melt from frictional heat caused by the tool.

Slow, steady, and LIGHT touch are the keys.

That's why my advice usually mentions going SLOWLY. Using a LIGHT touch. Do a TINY bit at a time. And, I mean TINY, TINY bits. This helps prevent "slips." It also allows the hobbyist to "get a feel" for how the tools and materials interact and perform.

I've got GOOD hands (that's what she said!), and I still slip up on occasion (that's what she said!).

I think another factor is a sense of anxiety or urgency with new builders. It's exciting to build your own gun. So, I think it's natural to get in a bit of a "hurry." It's natural to want to "git'er done and go shootin'!"

Take your time. Soak it all in. It's not brain surgery, and nobody's gonna die. Learn as you go. Pick the brains of the collective here on the forum. And MOST importantly... Have fun!

 

[Racer88]

Your critiques are tiresome. Obviously no sense of humor. You are waaaay overreacting. If you don't like me, block me. Other thin skinned people have.

I thought you were probably joking. Maybe throw in some big grinning emojis. Textual communications often lack nuance. Ask me how I know! Ha!

 

[Callducks7]

I thought you were probably joking. Maybe throw in some big grinning emojis. Textual communications often lack nuance. Ask me how I know! Ha!

Racer, although my question was a bit tongue in cheek, it was a legitimate question. It looked like the frame had been chewed up by using the wrong tool.......or chewed on by a family of beavers.

 

[Racer88]

Racer, although my question was a bit tongue in cheek, it was a legitimate question. It looked like the frame had been chewed up by using the wrong tool.......or chewed on by a family of beavers.

Haha! I like to say a rat on flaka!

To be fair, it looks like he just got started on the channel (barely into it) and the Dremel slipped off to the back, hitting the slide lock spring slot.

 

[Racer88]

So, while sanding down the channel of a project I just started working on, I accidentally shaved a little bit of this part of the frame. I worked on many projects before, but haven’t had this happen; So I ask, will this mess up the entire build?

Note: I don't have any of the internals and I also don't have the slide so I wont be able to test it myself.

Thanks.

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For what it's worth... here's a video I made of how I do the channel tab. Skip ahead to 6:36.

Pay attention to how I position my hands to steady / control the Dremel.


View: https://rumble.com/vs3e16-using-a-micro-sander-for-p80-frame-and-channel-finishing.html

Mind you.... It can be done without the micro-sander. Just take your time and use finer (less coarse / less aggressive) bits as you get closer to the "finish line." Having a properly cleared and smooth channel is critical to the operation of the pistol.

 

[Racer88]

And most methods are just fine. Go with the method you feel most comfortable with and as mentioned, don't get into a rush.

Yep. That's pretty much it. Don't rush!

 

[Bcichlid]

So, while sanding down the channel of a project I just started working on, I accidentally shaved a little bit of this part of the frame. I worked on many projects before, but haven’t had this happen; So I ask, will this mess up the entire build?

Note: I don't have any of the internals and I also don't have the slide so I wont be able to test it myself.

Thanks.

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Thats how you will learn is going true it all the way to the end, remember to watch the safety video as well to see how it all holds up and function.
Worst case scenario you will junk this frame up, but with some JB weld and other methods P80 frames can be fixed up even after being cutoff in half.
In general you do want first to get all the parts necessary for your build double check all part numbers, OEM Glock parts are recommended to have less problems. (trigger + slide parts)
Then find time and go at it, drilling holes correctly is first major critical step, focus on it first.
If you mess them up it will have negative ripple effect down the line.
As you go forward practice does make perfect.

 

[Racer88]

And I want to add one more thing. I will never belittle someone for making a mistake. I won't even joke about it. That is very unprofessional and not needed here.

People have different senses of humor. And it can be hard to convey in text format. It can also be interpreted differently in text format. Hell, I've been guilty of it on both sides of the equation.

One thing that may help is adding an emoji that "emphasizes" the humorous or sarcastic intent.

I've been involved on forums since around 1992... before Algore invented the internet. And, before emojis! Misunderstandings and unintentional dust-ups are part of it.

But, yes... we want to be especially sensitive or "aware" with a newbie who doesn't know us or a particular commenter. We can get away with jabs at each other once we "know" each other online.

So everyone "simmah down now."

 

[Callducks7]

I spent over 20 years on a Harley forum. You can't imagine how much I've mellowed since those days. Guns, hunting and motorcycles!

 

[GSW10]

One thing that may help is adding an emoji that "emphasizes" the humorous or sarcastic intent.


But, yes... we want to be especially sensitive or "aware" with a newbie who doesn't know us or a particular commenter. We can get away with jabs at each other once we "know" each other online.

This was about what I was thinking. Yes, we know each other a little better around here, and especially those of us who migrated from MGB's Forum. It is probably easier for us to take a joke, and more acceptable for us to dish one back out. I myself am well aware of what an @$$-O I can be, and make concerted efforts not to be needlessly offensive to others, despite what my internal dialogue about someone may be. But I am not perfect either, and there are times it is appropriate to call someone out -usually over safety concerns that are being ignored. I don't think it is acceptable to smash a newbie for, let's face it, a minor 'oops' on their Build, and a continued negative attitude on ANY Forum is simply erosive to the health of a smaller Community.

That said,

'don't you be like me', and quit being such a sonovabitch! There now, see all those humorous emojis?

 

[Racer88]

I myself am well aware of what an @$$-O I can be

On this forum you don't have to hide words like "asshole."

I find it rather amusing that on most other forums, they censor "bad words," so everyone ends up disguising the "bad words." Of course everyone reading knows what "@$$-O" or "sh*t" or "f***" means. So, who are we kidding by censoring those words?? We're fucking adults, eh? Ha! See what I did there?

Anyway... this forum doesn't censor curse words. George Carlin would be proud!

 

[GSW10]

On this forum you don't have to hide words like "asshole."

I find it rather amusing that on most other forums, they censor "bad words," so everyone ends up disguising the "bad words." Of course everyone reading knows what "@$$-O" or "sh*t" or "f***" means. So, who are we kidding by censoring those words?? We're fucking adults, eh? Ha! See what I did there?

Anyway... this forum doesn't censor curse words. George Carlin would be proud!

I self-censor the most, ahh, 'questionably acceptable' words (most of the time) essentially because someone may be sharing knowledge and ideas from this Forum with their children or grand-children. The entire basis for our Communnity is being so aggressively suppressed that I feel it is important for those who have the opportunity to share our views and knowledge with future generations. Pervasive and overtly 'foul' language may dissuade someone from doing that, so I make my efforts, minor that they are, to curb it. Just my thing. I don't think I have any other reason anymore... [shrug]

 

[Racer88]

I self-censor the most, ahh, 'questionably acceptable' words (most of the time) essentially because someone may be sharing knowledge and ideas from this Forum with their children or grand-children. The entire basis for our Communnity is being so aggressively suppressed that I feel it is important for those who have the opportunity to share our views and knowledge with future generations. Pervasive and overtly 'foul' language may dissuade someone from doing that, so I make my efforts, minor that they are, to curb it. Just my thing. I don't think I have any other reason anymore... [shrug]

Nothin' wrong with that.

For me, it's the fact that I've had to censor myself for decades on other forums. Now I have the power to make that decision. So, I'm going the opposite way.

This forum's terms mention that it's for 18 years and older. That said... anyone who thinks their 14 year old isn't cursing or doesn't know the words is delusional. You should have heard the locker room full of 12 year olds on my son's hockey team! They'd make a sailor blush! Holy crap! LOL!

Oh, yeah... I was in the fuckin' Navy, soooooo.... LOL!

OK... enough thread drift.