i guess my ears are better then yours because man that draw is LOUD
What? Speak louder.

LOL! I do have bad tinnitus.
I've been in this game (and gun forums) for quite a while. This is the first I've ever seen anyone mention the sound made by drawing a firearm from a holster. Seriously... I've been on gun forms for some 30+ years. First time.
> "i will never have to be quiet or use stealth, i will always be, or be part of, the overwhelming force, the violence i am involved in will always be to my overwhelming advantage"
ok bud
No need to get froggy.

If I do have the occasion to be stealthy, I'm pretty sure I can draw from kydex very quietly... by going slowly. But, hey... holster preferences are very subjective. Most of us have the proverbial "box-o'-holsters" that we've tried and ended up not using.
you might find yourself needing to draw and point your weapon at a man as quietly as possible, you never know what you need to do, that's why it's better to have adaptable technology then non adaptable technology
True that such encounters are dynamic and unpredictable. But I dare suggest that the most likely scenario where we might need to
"draw and point as quietly as possible" would be in a home defense situation.... a "bump in the night" situation. That would mean I'm not likely wearing a holster. I'd more likely be retrieving my weapon from a safe, a bedside drawer, or other container / location. How noisy is your safe?
if he already has the drop on you and he isn't a complete mouth breathing retard and your guardian angle isn't looking then your gonna be dead, doesn't matter what you carry or what you prepare for.
Angel.

Or maybe
@Bongo Lewi does have a guardian angle! haha.... sorry.... couldn't resist!
If the bad guy has the drop on you, it's no bueno. But with some luck and cunning... it is possible to prevail.
if you are a private citizen that is carrying because you want to be prepared, you want a holster that is quiet not fast, comfortable not secure, covert, not overt, you can have the most secure, fast, holster with the greatest capacity gun in the world, none of that is gong to matter if you don't wear the thing and it's at home
Of course, I agree with a "gun at home" not being of any use outside the home.
i know what i'm preparing for, i want to be able to have a gun and holster that i can conceal, that is quiet, that is comfortable
As they say,
"Concealed means concealed."
i don't care about speed, i don't care about retention, i don't care about capacity, because none of that matters if my gun is at home
I do care about speed, retention, comfort, concealment, capacity, accuracy, and reliability. I also care about training and practice. It all matters to me.
Debating those things in the context of "gun at home" is a non-sequitur. They matter. Period. Whether you carry or leave it at home is an ENTIRELY different conversation on which we absolutely agree.