Polymer80 may survive the court battle but not their own reputation....

I just got this email from Polymer80:

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what's the difference between this a regular frame?
It depends on what you mean by "regular frame."

Assuming that by "regular" you mean 80% frames.

The "bridge" or "76%" frames have additional "blocks" (than the 80% frames) that have to be removed by the builder. The most notoriously difficult is the "web" block in the trigger housing pocket. But there are also additional blocks in the pockets where the front locking block legs go into the frame.

Of course, there are also "100%" (serialized) frames that require no work at all before installing the internal parts.
 
I get that folks here are running in problems. My experiences with P80 have been positive. I contacted them when I started with a Q and they promptly responded. I bought a bridge frame early and they offered the free 80% one during an injunction and promptly sent it to me. Recently I bought a serialized PFS9 which had a QR code for warranty registration and a free mag (bought end of Dec during that sale and had requested delayed shipment due to my travel plans). Anyhow, the URL was broken so I reached out to them via their website and they got back to me in a short amount of time requesting a photo of the frame & serial. I sent that to them and in a day or two had notification of the magazine in transit from the shipping company (in transit, not label created). Not here yet - s/b Tuesday.

I realize the 80% frames right now are a different animal and would be upset if I had paid for something that isn't on its way, but I wanted to put in my two cents about the positive experiences I have had with them.
 
what's the difference between this a regular frame?
There much more work involved removing polymer. It’s very difficult to accomplish. Most people that try it don’t have the patience to slowly remove the material and damage the frame. I’d compare it to when the 80% 1st came out and builders botched those up until they learned how to do it. Some newbies still mess them up.

If you’ve never built an 80% you may be more open to building the 76% bridge frame.

Here’s a photo showing some of the additional work compared to a regular frame.
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Here’s a post on my 76% bridge build

Delta team tactical is still selling 80%. They have p80 and SCT brand which looks like p80

Edit- ☝️☝️ ops sorry guys. Thanks for the correction @Steelart99 USPA was they only stand out selling and they are out of stock.
 
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There much more work involved removing polymer. It’s very difficult to accomplish. Most people that try it don’t have the patience to slowly remove the material and damage the frame. I’d compare it to when the 80% 1st came out and builders botched those up until they learned how to do it. Some newbies still mess them up.

If you’ve never built an 80% you may be more open to building the 76% bridge frame.

Here’s a photo showing some of the additional work compared to a regular frame.
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Here’s a post on my 76% bridge build

Delta team tactical is still selling 80%. They have p80 and SCT brand which looks like p80
Ah yes I remember this now. Back when I was looking to build I saw this mess in the 76% and said nope and found the 80% Arms build and very happy with the results.
 
Man this thread has wandered off the deep end.
Thread drift! LOL!

I would LOVE it if someone from Polymer80 would join the conversation here (instead of a random comment buried under a YouTube video.

Plus I think it would work in their favor, instead of letting us speculate what is really going on. I think if they'd clue us in, they'd have our unwavering support.
 
It was really hard trying to argue against the stupid ban in my state just because when I was asked how long it takes I had to admit to doing it in 5 minutes and an hour for an AR. Like I said I firmly believe that if you are legal to own it you're legal to make it for your personal use. How do we protect our rights and protect our kids and prevent criminals from getting them? I've been part of the Builder Community for over 40 years starting when I was 13.
ok, Fed.
 
I doubt it.

I don't know why the average citizen would be called upon to testify to some state government committee as an expert witness in gun control. That just doesn't happen.

Moreover, Feds aren't trolling forums pretending to be a retired sheet metal worker in Maryland. That is so ridiculous I cant believe that anyone could think it's true. Are they looking? You bet they are. Are government agents sitting at desks reading posts? Pretending to be one of the crew? Come on. Anybody who thinks that happens either has no clue, needs a break from watching CSI TV shows, or seriously needs to see a shrink. It doesn't work that way. Internet monitoring is far more sophisticated. It's automated.

If there's probable cause, a human may investigate. Most likely enabled by a warrant. If an investigator discovers something illegal going on and don't have a warrant, that's a problem. An army of agents with fake personas monitoring literally hundreds of gun forums seeking lawbreakers? It's fantasy.

I have been pretty active here for a while and I have yet to see a single instance of anyone even hinting that they are doing or have done anything illegal. It should also be noted that A Tee Eff agents in the local offices are predominately glorified clerks. Not jackbooted thugs wearing SWAT gear ready to kick in your front door. The guy at the top is a political appointed tool for sure, but the rank and file are just regular people like you and me doing a job. It's mind numbing boring. When they show up in riot gear, it's a special team and there were warrants and evidence of felony activity. Nobody here is that important.
 
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You're not helping, and that's bullshit. Sorry, but yeah... Absolutely and provably FALSE.

Grown-ass adults (who aren't career machinists, eh?) have trouble building working examples with UNLIMITED time.


Also bullshit. Prove it. Please show the ACTUAL data (not liberal talking points) that demonstrate PMFs, SPECIFICALLY, are proliferating as a criminal "plague." This is also absolutely false and not supported by actual data. Same goes for assault prevention weapons. You're making THEIR argument.
that's a Ray Eppes
 
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