I just did some research. I was under the wrong assumption that all modern pistols are "drop safe." Apparently not... especially 1911s, which I admittedly know very little about.
It raises the question (for me): Why would you REMOVE the firing pin safety? What is the advantage gained by doing that?
Not all pistols are drop safe, but not "especially" the 1911, Racer. If you are reading someone who says they are not drop safe, he/she doesn't know much about the design. The 1911 is notoriously drop safe and have been for 110 years. Do you think Springfield Armory would still be making 1911s without FP safeties if they were not drop safe?
If/when you know lots more about 1911s you'll realize a FP safety in that gun is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. People often think categorically, "If one pistol is not drop safe, NO pistol is drop safe." or "If so-and-so manufacturer starts using FP safeties, then that gun automatically needs one!" Neither is true.
With a standard firing pin and firing pin spring, no 1911 needs an FP safety. Back in the heyday of IPSC when everyone, and I mean everyone--Cooper, Wilson, Hackathorn, Weaver, et al -- rocked 1911s they ALL wanted the Colt Series 70 guns for their builds. No FP safety.
And Colt does, in fact still make them without FP safeties. They are optional on Colt guns, and you cannot get one with a FP safety from Springfield Armory.
An Official Journal Of The NRA | First Look: Colt 1911 Series 70 Competition Pistol
Colt announced that its line of 1911 Competition Pistols would now feature the popular Series 70 firing system.www.shootingillustrated.com
The 1911 was my first love, ask anything, I'm nuts about them.
You will never be guaranteed that use of a PMF defensively will not be held against you. You also don't have a guarantee that use of an OEM firearm defensively will not be held against you. To a large extent, everyone is going to have to assess the environment they hang out in (i.e. states and localities) and have some idea of how the winds blow to know whether they are ok or not.
Ah. Thanks for the explanation. So, if you remove the FP safety, you can feel it (an improvement) in the trigger pull? I was curious about this on a technical / functional level.
REALLY? LOL! Hardly. I was only bringing up the potential "optics" in the eyes of the prosecution and jury (since that's the theme of this thread) when it comes to deliberately REMOVING a "safety" on a firearm. I'm not arguing the merits of doing it (though I was curious, and that was answered).
Again... I wasn't arguing the merits / demerits of doing it, even in the context that the factory sells a model without it. I was simply suggesting that the APPEARANCE of the deliberate removal of a factory-installed "safety" might be a point of contention by the prosecution. If putting a CARTOON SKULL emblem on the back of your pistol slide could be an issue... well.... yeah. Does either one matter? Probably not. Not if you're legal in the areas that actually matter.
To be clear, it came serialized from the P80 factory. I didn't add a serial # to it. So, it had to be transferred through an FFL with a NICS check, just like a full factory gun.
That's bullshit, of course, that you'd have to go through that to retrieve your lawfully owned property.
I hear ya on that. Look at the Hunter Biden story (stories!). If any of us had done what he has done, we'd be in prison.
Hey, at least you have choices! That's a good thing, eh?
Most of the jury thinks this about AR-15s. What the heck will they think about PMFs? lol
Questionable. Unlike the series 80 safety where the firing pin plunger is activated during the trigger pull, the Swartz mechanism is activated by pressing the grip safety. It is independent from the trigger. Many remove it for fear of excess parts failing. Also if it is out of time it can allow the hammer to fall before it presses the firing pin safety plunger in. As for the series 80 a good smith can tune it where it’s indistinguishable from a 70 series.
Ive always had mixed feelings about Kel Tec. They do some cool things in terms of design that nobody else does. But the guns are basically disposable. When they wear out, they are done.
Ditto. Modifying a carry gun is a bad idea in my opinion. Lots of wing nuts put lighter triggers on their carry. Most credible self defense experts say don't do this. But vendors who sell trigger kits appeal to the hero wannabe crowd. Thankfully, gunfights are rare. Because the dipshit who over accessorizes his firearm, spends four hours a year at the range, and imagines himself as a character in a Vin Diesel movie is either going to jail or to the ER.
Most of us have more money invested in our builds than, say, a stock glock. So should any incident occur that would deprive me of my weapon, even temporarily, I would prefer it to be the cheaper one. I carry either my G43 or 26 instead of their pmf versions, which I have a lot more inSurprisingly, an advanced search with "Carry" in the title yielded no results on this topic. I build the P80 version of the G43 and built it with complete OEM parts, including magazines (with Pearce +2 extensions, though) and have been carrying it frequently. I know OEM parts are not absolutely required, but this gun has never bobbled a single round, it runs, well, like a Glock.
A hot debate is should you or should you not carry a modified handgun. Some say box-stock only, others say it doesn't matter, especially if it's not to make the gun easier to fire. For instance, my putting a + connector in my G45 increases trigger pull weight and would be no problem.
In PA,guns are legal, I got a wonderful holster from Knightfall Customs, and have been happily carrying my little gun for almost a year. Does anyone else do this, or are you only carrying branded guns for self-defense?
