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NavyVette said:
You can buy an 80% glock clone frame from:
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Polymer80 80% Pistol Frame Kits Archives

Polymer80 80% Pistol Frame Kits are used to build Glock Compatible 80% pistols that you can build yourself at home. The frames come in a variety of sizes.
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Or a Geisler:
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Geisler Defence 19X 80% Pistol Frame – Gen 1-3 Compatible / G2 Design / Choose Color

Complete Geisler Defence 19X 80% pistol frame– Gen 1-3 Glock compatible. Includes pins and locking device. Features Gen2 ergonomic design. Multiple colors available - choose yours.Geisler Defence 19X 80 Pistol Frame – Gen 1-3 Compatible / G2 Design / Choo
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I thought we were back to it not being legal to buy and sell 80% frames?
 
Pern said:
I thought we were back to it not being legal to buy and sell 80% frames?
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From what I understand, 80% frames must be serialized and the purchaser has to pass a background check.
 
Viking2721 said:
The ATF just raided 3 of the most popular 3D gun designers. Didn't charge them, but did keep all their computers cellphones etc. Definitely sending a message.
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What were the circumstances? They have to have probable cause. Can't get a judge to sign a warrant without it.

Law enforcement may confiscate your phone and computer (or related equipment) for evidence collection if there’s suspicion it contains information related to criminal activities, such as fraud, harassment, or possession of illegal content, as part of their investigative efforts to compile relevant data.

In more complex scenarios, your computer could fall under civil asset forfeiture laws, where it can be seized if there is a belief that the device was used in committing a crime or was acquired with the proceeds of criminal activities. In these cases, direct evidence linking you to the crime might not be necessary for such actions to be initiated.

They dont have to charge you just to get a warrant. But the chances are they already plan to charge you. Or they wouldn't bother with the warrant.
 
Bongo Lewi said:
What were the circumstances? They have to have probable cause. Can't get a judge to sign a warrant without it.

Law enforcement may confiscate your phone and computer (or related equipment) for evidence collection if there’s suspicion it contains information related to criminal activities, such as fraud, harassment, or possession of illegal content, as part of their investigative efforts to compile relevant data.

In more complex scenarios, your computer could fall under civil asset forfeiture laws, where it can be seized if there is a belief that the device was used in committing a crime or was acquired with the proceeds of criminal activities. In these cases, direct evidence linking you to the crime might not be necessary for such actions to be initiated.

They dont have to charge you just to get a warrant. But the chances are they already plan to charge you. Or they wouldn't bother with the warrant.
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I spoke to one of the guys. He said they raided him and took all his electronics, but didn't charge him with anything. He wasn't arrested, nor detained. They did have a warrant, and took his 3D printers and computers, but didn't touch his guns, none of his 3D printed frames or parts..
 
Viking2721 said:
I spoke to one of the guys. He said they raided him and took all his electronics, but didn't charge him with anything. He wasn't arrested, nor detained. They did have a warrant, and took his 3D printers and computers, but didn't touch his guns, none of his 3D printed frames or parts..
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That's really weird.
 
Curmudgeon said:
From what I understand, 80% frames must be serialized and the purchaser has to pass a background check.
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Pern said:
I thought we were back to it not being legal to buy and sell 80% frames?
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Depends on the state. Unserialized / serialized 80% frames and bridge frames are still for sale and builders are purchasing them. If your state allows and you can afford- go git em.

Here’s a post with a list of venders

There are still 80% frames out there

P80 frames are nearly impossible to find these days. However, those aren’t the only 80% pistol styles to build. USPA has Giesler 80%, p80 g26 & 43 MAS Defense has bridge frames in so very cool colors. Is more of a challenge to complete. May not look so nice inside when done but they do work...
www.patriotgunbuilders.com www.patriotgunbuilders.com
 
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Viking2721 said:
I spoke to one of the guys. He said they raided him and took all his electronics, but didn't charge him with anything. He wasn't arrested, nor detained. They did have a warrant, and took his 3D printers and computers, but didn't touch his guns, none of his 3D printed frames or parts..
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He needs a lawyer.

I wonder.. fake cops? A ripoff? Just a thought. Far fetched but that would be a clever scam.

A warrant is very specific. They have to be clear on what they are looking for. Unless they observe something else that’s illegal while searching, they cannot confiscate other items. Whatever they seize has to relate to the warrant.

So… the warrant must have specified 3d printers and computers used with them.
 
I put a G-Flex trigger on a G17. Works like a binary. I found it great at blowing thru a lot of ammo really fast but not much else. Took it off and replaced it with a Timney. That was before I discovered Johnny Glock.

The operation of a binary trigger or similar function on a PCC or AR is relatively straightforward if you arent an unskilled doofus. The thing you have to learn is how to disable it when you need to stop shooting - when you have the trigger 'pulled'. On a pistol with no safety.... not as simple. It's manageable but like I said you cant be doofus who doesn't truly understand how the gun or the non-standard trigger works. Negligent discharge is pretty easy with these triggers.

I've read reviews and watched YouTube vides of full auto handguns. Mostly Glocks. Fun range toys, but that joy is fleeting. Accuracy goes out the window as one might expect. In my mind there just arent any scenarios where I'd want or need a full auto handgun. It's a solution looking for a problem. If you want to sling lead, get a subgun and put an FRT or binary trigger on it if that gives you a woodie. The better subguns are roller delayed and far more controllable in a full auto mode or simulating it with the aforementioned trigger alternatives. Scorpion , Stribog, or one of the Turkish HK clones are affordable. The triggers run about 350 bucks. Some more.
 
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In case you ever imagine yourself being in a situation where you need to lay down suppressing fire so your ninja friends can take out a machine gun nest. And you showed up for the fight with a Glock 17. :)


View: https://youtu.be/51vm4N7pmqY
 
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No safety dingus. On a gun with no other safety. And one that can dump a 17 round mag in a 3 seconds.

What could go wrong?
 
Bongo Lewi said:
He needs a lawyer.

I wonder.. fake cops? A ripoff? Just a thought. Far fetched but that would be a clever scam.

A warrant is very specific. They have to be clear on what they are looking for. Unless they observe something else that’s illegal while searching, they cannot confiscate other items. Whatever they seize has to relate to the warrant.

So… the warrant must have specified 3d printers and computers used with them.
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He has a lawyer. His lawyer told him not to expect to get any of his confiscated things returned.

Like you, I have a lot of questions, but given his present circumstances, I'd rather not have lengthy conversations with him.
 
Bongo Lewi said:
No safety dingus. On a gun with no other safety. And one that can dump a 17 round mag in a 3 seconds.

What could go wrong?
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A lot, that's why it's best to use a 30 rd mag or a 50 rd drum, because if shits gonna go bad, at least you might make it onto Fox News.🤣
 
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No dingus, hard pass for me.
 
So who sells frt’s for Ar’s and ak’s?
 
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Pern said:
So who sells frt’s for Ar’s and ak’s?
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