Toyota has given up on EVs. Not.

People also do it for crosswalk lights.
Yes! Same habit.

My #2 ex was a compulsive salter. And an obsessive button pusher. She would do the same with a keyboard or click the mouse 100 times if the computer wasn't responding fast enough. Manhattan socialite, came from a rich family. In public she appeared stoic and very poised. In private she was impatient to the point of being manic. Jekyll and Hyde personality.
 
Back on topic:

https://insideevs.com/news/786534/f...asLXQevqu_CaHITFNx_aem_c93dZTWMrIgiEe0zyT1-Zg

Ford is not giving up on an EV truck. They simply woke up and realized after spending a billion dollars that bolting a classic F150 on to a battery pack was a bad idea.

No shit, Sherlock!

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Yeah... riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Never going to happen. It will never cost $30k. It will be much higher. Or, it will have an 80 mile range. LOL! A golf cart.
 
Stellantiis is about to aee an explosion in growth. The boss drew a line on a chart going up 25% this year so it must be so.

 
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Yeah... riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Never going to happen. It will never cost $30k. It will be much higher. Or, it will have an 80 mile range. LOL! A golf cart.
Sounds like they are trying to be the blue oval version of a Slate.

With the subsidies drying up, even Slate is now saying "mid 20's. But they also are saying they are leaving no stone unturned to achieve this goal. Which translates to they are struggling to bring the truck to market for $27K, which is the original price minus the gov't subsidy.

Don't be surprised if only the folks who have already placed an order and paid a deposit get that price. Then it will be $30K, at which point it loses its luster, especially if Ford has a comparable truck for the same money that has the expected creature comforts as standard equipment, and more range with the base model battery.

One thing I observed in my car dealership days was that no one buys bare bones stripped down vehicles unless its trucks for fleet use. Peeps want bling. And by the time you bling out a Slate, it's $40K. I'm pretty sure Ford will be able to out bling Slate for the same price point.
 
One thing I observed in my car dealership days was that no one buys bare bones stripped down vehicles unless its trucks for fleet use. Peeps want bling. And by the time you bling out a Slate, it's $40K. I'm pretty sure Ford will be able to out bling Slate for the same price point.

That wasn't true with my 2004 Subaru STI. It came stripped down, and it was the only way you could buy it. No factory options AT ALL. It even came without floor mats or a radio. No shit. And you could not order them from the factory! You want floor mats or a radio... go get'em yourself.

They did that to keep the cost at $32k MSRP (no negotiations, either). Pay $32k or get the fuck out of here... There's a line of people waiting to buy it. It was $32k worth of performance with NO EXTRAS. Bare bones. And I loved it!

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No floor mats or radio, but Brembo brakes standard! 300 HP / 300 lb-ft standard! 6-speed manual standard! AWD standard! Most fun car ever! I still have dreams about it. No kidding.

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Price out a Tacoma nicely equipped. It's one of the better small pickups. $35-40k avg. You can easily spend $50k.

I priced out full size pickups to replace one of my Gladiators. $70-80k was typical.

It's possible that fleet cars and trucks are going to lead the charge into EVs. All the gear heads who hate EVs dont get a vote. The decision will be made by accountants. The plain vanilla local delivery vehicle is ideal for EV technology. Low maintenance, cheap to run, range not an issue. Probably also light trucks.
 
As anybody who does technical work knows, troubleshooting is a logical process of elimination. When I am trying to solve a problem the one thing that makes me absolutely nuts is the impatient button pusher or what my father used to call "hammer mechanics" who immediately start beating on something that they cant figure out how to assemble or disassemble.

That's funny! On the S-3 one of the pieces of gear I worked on was around 18" wide, 10 inches tall and probably two feet deep. Nearly the whole thing was stiffed with 17.5 inch circuit boarde in two rows (one on top and one on the bottom) from the front to the back. Access was through the right side with a clamshell cover.

Invariably the circuit cards would develop an issue with the connection to the backplane after a few launches and landings and would come in for repair. I cannot remember if there was one in particular where the failure indicated that all we needed to do was reseat the card or if that was our initial troubleshooting for all issues.

Anyhow, one day I realized that since the number 1 repair was reseating the circuit boards I did not need to open the thin sheetmetal covers, and took a rubber mallet to them.
One of my squadrons pilots walked in right then, saw me and said "Is that how you fix those?" I replied "That's how you break them, it's how I have to fix them, Sir"
 
Stellantiis is about to aee an explosion in growth. The boss drew a line on a chart going up 25% this year so it must be so.

Dilbert-esque! You need to step in and take over for Scott Adams!

I believe the current Stellantis CEO just got booted.

BTW: The people that write these articles about car companies must have flunked Accounting 101. A write down is not the same as a write off. In recent news with the big car makers, the EV investments are write downs.
  • A write-down reduces an asset's value but retains some worth, while a write-off lowers it to zero.
  • Write-offs are typically one-time events when an asset loses all value, whereas write-downs occur over time.
  • Write-offs impact financial statements by reducing both net income and asset book value.
  • Write-downs can signal asset devaluation due to market changes or damage but don't eliminate the asset's existence.
 
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That's funny! On the S-3 one of the pieces of gear I worked on was around 18" wide, 10 inches tall and probably two feet deep. Nearly the whole thing was stiffed with 17.5 inch circuit boarde in two rows (one on top and one on the bottom) from the front to the back. Access was through the right side with a clamshell cover.

Invariably the circuit cards would develop an issue with the connection to the backplane after a few launches and landings and would come in for repair. I cannot remember if there was one in particular where the failure indicated that all we needed to do was reseat the card or if that was our initial troubleshooting for all issues.

Anyhow, one day I realized that since the number 1 repair was reseating the circuit boards I did not need to open the thin sheetmetal covers, and took a rubber mallet to them.
One of my squadrons pilots walked in right then, saw me and said "Is that how you fix those?" I replied "That's how you break them, it's how I have to fix them, Sir"
Similar story: :)

I'm showing a small group of maintenance technicians in a power plant how to replace circuit boards in this new system we just fired up. The boards were large and getting them into the backplane and seated correctly had a certain trick to it. So I tell these guys something like this while demonstrating:

1. Slide it into the cage until you feel it up against the socket.
2. Gently wiggle it side to side until it feels right
3. Holding on to the top and bottom, give it a firm push

So one of the guys looks at his co worker and says... Hey John, I hear that's how your wife likes it.

John did not see the humor in it and they started the pre-fistfight yelling and pushing. Their supervisor intervened.
 
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Wasn’t it Ben Franklin who said to ‘never trust anyone who seasons their food (salt and pepper) before they taste it’?

Unless I have kitchen taste-test access before a meal, nothing goes on my food before I taste it….aside from eggs if I want some hot sauce on them.
 
Wasn’t it Ben Franklin who said to ‘never trust anyone who seasons their food (salt and pepper) before they taste it’?

Unless I have kitchen taste-test access before a meal, nothing goes on my food before I taste it….aside from eggs if I want some hot sauce on them.
Possible. There were a lot of Franklinisms. The Rickover thing was repeated to me by a former Rickover staffer who had run that gauntlet. The father of the modern nuclear navy was reported to be quite a character.

Another story he told me was some report he produced went up the chain. Rickover calls him on the phone and says, I read your report. BULLSHIT! Then he hung up.

Makes me think I would have been a good Admiral. :)
 
Another car mag writer that flunked accounting. Math is hard. He should learn how to read a balance sheet.

Write off and Write down are not the same thing. Reading Honda Motor's most recent financial statement, their finance, power (engines), motorcycle business are all in the red. Their SG&A is also a heavy burden, which has nothing to do with production/manufacturing losses or write downs for EVs.

Honda has other issues bedsides overestimating EV sales in the US market. Their cars arent selling and tariffs are costing them a lot of pain.

If you wonder where the author Mr. Kalmowicz is coming from politically.... I'll bet he never met a capitalist country he liked. About his Ford commentary and automaker layoffs in Germany:

"The last thing you want to do is give Elon Musk's second favorite German political party a foothold in the country"

Unbiased journalism? Maybe he should just stick to writing about cars. :)
 
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Another car mag writer that flunked accounting. Math is hard. He should learn how to read a balance sheet.

Write off and Write down are not the same thing. Reading Honda Motor's most recent financial statement, their finance, power (engines), motorcycle business are all in the red. Their SG&A is also a heavy burden, which has nothing to do with production/manufacturing losses or write downs for EVs.

Honda has other issues bedsides overestimating EV sales in the US market. Their cars arent selling and tariffs are costing them a lot of pain.

If you wonder where the author Mr. Kalmowicz is coming from politically.... I'll bet he never met a capitalist country he liked. About his Ford commentary and automaker layoffs in Germany:

"The last thing you want to do is give Elon Musk's second favorite German political party a foothold in the country"

Unbiased journalism? Maybe he should just stick to writing about cars. :)

I'll admit I skimmed the article. No such thing as unbiased "journalism."
 
I'll admit I skimmed the article. No such thing as unbiased "journalism."
Yea. I figured. This writer is a dildoe. Didnt even do his own fact checking. One look at Honda's financial statement would not have been too much to ask.

That said, they screwed the pooch getting in bed with GM on EVs. They must have believed that Harris would win and Biden's stupid policies would prevail.
 
Yea. I figured. This writer is a dildoe. Didnt even do his own fact checking. One look at Honda's financial statement would not have been too much to ask.

That said, they screwed the pooch getting in bed with GM on EVs. They must have believed that Harris would win and Biden's stupid policies would prevail.

Yeah... I didn't catch this....

The last thing you want to do is give Elon Musk's second favorite German political party a foothold in the country.

WOW! That, alone, discredits the entire article, IMO.
 
Yeah... I didn't catch this....



WOW! That, alone, discredits the entire article, IMO.
I don't know why he threw that in or his editor didn't strike it. Clearly irrelevant to the article and inappropriate for a car enthusiast blog.

It's kind of like how you cant have a conversation online about the best recipe for shrimp and grits without some asshole injecting a comment about Trump.
 
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