The House passed the budget with the HPA!
- Thread starter clm2112
- Start date
Meme is from there...
Really more like:
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2023
- Messages
- 9,506
- Reaction score
- 11,077
- Points
- 168
I also have no affection for AR pistols.I fucking hate AR pistols. Loud as fuck on the range shooting line. HATE. THEM. I think they're stupid, too.
I also don't get "braces" other than as actual forearm braces as designed. As a shoulder stock, they absolutely suck. So, I don't get the attraction or utility.
Sub guns... better suited for that style of firearm. Usually a pistol caliber and roller delayed. The best of them anyway.
Braces are beneficial on a sub gun. Mainly because of the manner in which you shoot them. Low and close to the body. The type of brace matters though. The big-ass rubber ones... suck. Heavy and awkward. Those with straps... necessary if you are handicapped. I like the A3 folder braces and also the Tailhook. I've combined an A3 brace with a Tailhook on a couple of sub guns.
Single point slings are effective on subguns as well. I do both. Can't say one method is better than the other. Either works if you practice it.
Like them or not, I don't know anyone that Doesn't now own one or the other.I fucking hate AR pistols. Loud as fuck on the range shooting line. HATE. THEM. I think they're stupid, too.
I also don't get "braces" other than as actual forearm braces as designed. As a shoulder stock, they absolutely suck. So, I don't get the attraction or utility.
And I agree that a 7" AR is rather rude.
You should hear my .308 with a 10” barrel.
And THIS is why reduction of the "tax" to $0 is a Pyrrhic victory. For those who think a $0 tax on suppressors is a "win" or even a small step in the right direction... You are WRONG.
View: https://x.com/MAC_Arms/status/1939300399552266610
To me... this changes nothing. I still will not own an SBR or a suppressor... because I don't care about the $200 tax. I care about registration. And this post is correct... if we allow this "win," we will NEVER EVER see these items stricken off the NFA list. Never, folks. NEVER.
View: https://x.com/MAC_Arms/status/1939300399552266610
To me... this changes nothing. I still will not own an SBR or a suppressor... because I don't care about the $200 tax. I care about registration. And this post is correct... if we allow this "win," we will NEVER EVER see these items stricken off the NFA list. Never, folks. NEVER.
A AR pistol in 5.56 is obnoxious to those next to you without a can. Even with, it's still not hearing safe. However, A 22 LR is a blast. For CF, 300 BLK with subs and a can is more practical.
I own neither... and never will. I don't see the point of them from a practical perspective. I love guns. I have a variety of guns. I like unusual guns. But for me, braced AR pistols are just obnoxious and do not fill any niche or practical use. Perhaps they are "fun" for those who own them. And I'm definitely all about fun with guns. Many of my own serve that sole purpose. But I personally do not see the "fun" in AR pistols.
- Joined
- May 12, 2022
- Messages
- 1,955
- Reaction score
- 2,276
- Points
- 128
Isn't the justification, by some, for the legality of NFA is that it is a tax? By removing the tax, I am wondering if it may open the door to a legal challenge to have these items removed from NFA as they'd no longer be taxed.
You're dreaming. Never. Going. To. Happen.
Instead, it's going to shut the door (for the reasons outlined above).
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2023
- Messages
- 9,506
- Reaction score
- 11,077
- Points
- 168
Registration with cans... doesnt matter. They wear out... have a finite life and end up in the landfill. The only thing registration does is prevent "ghost cans". I'm sure the silencer makers are quite happy with that. There are some who believe they lobbied for this.
I'm fine with just not paying the tax. The rest is non-sequitur. Each can has a serial number. So what.
SBRs... I don't know why there is even such a thing. Firearm technology has evolved and this really is obsolete. A shockwave is basically a sawed off shotgun. But it isn't. Subguns, PCCs or Rifle caliber pistols are SBRs, But they aren't. It's a bunch of nonsense.
I'm fine with just not paying the tax. The rest is non-sequitur. Each can has a serial number. So what.
SBRs... I don't know why there is even such a thing. Firearm technology has evolved and this really is obsolete. A shockwave is basically a sawed off shotgun. But it isn't. Subguns, PCCs or Rifle caliber pistols are SBRs, But they aren't. It's a bunch of nonsense.
Last edited:
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2023
- Messages
- 9,506
- Reaction score
- 11,077
- Points
- 168
A .223/5.56 AR pistol in any pistol barrel length is a flamethrower. The powder is still burning five feet from the muzzle. A can is useless.
300 BLK... better. But still, a rifle caliber pistol makes no sense at all.
As a range toy... sure. As a serious weapon it's a solution looking for a problem.
Ummm.... who's gonna tell'im? LOL
The guy that murdered the United CEO used a "ghost" everything. Wait! You mean he paid no mind to the LAW?!??
True, of course. It's quite silly and devoid of logic.
That's the scuttlebutt I'm reading.
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2023
- Messages
- 9,506
- Reaction score
- 11,077
- Points
- 168
Somebody who wants you to be arrested.
Ex wife, pissed off girlfriend, the Karen next door. I know a guy whose soon-to-be ex got his guns and gear confiscated. Court order. He eventually got them back.
Nothing is going to stop a criminal who could care less about the law. We have been over this. Those who use a makeshift unregistered can in the commission of a crime? They just add five more years to the sentence. Enjoy the extra time being beaten and sodomized. After the first ten years, maybe you start to enjoy it? I’d rather not find out. That’s just me. I’ll stick with buying mine legally.
Manufacturers have been investing in suppressors for a while now. Waiting for some easing of restrictions. Getting rid of the tax will probably cause a surge in sales. If registration or serial number were abolished? The next thing that happens is cheap Chinese knockoff silencer parts appear on eBay. People buy them instead of buying a manufactured suppressor. Every home made can is a lost sale. This is why suppressor makers want registration.
The other elephant in the room is… if you can’t legally buy a gun then why should you be able to legally buy a suppressor? For what purpose? In that case it is likely it would be used in a crime. Thus registration.
I don’t believe any sort of regulation or registration discourages a criminal. It does make prosecution and sentencing more severe. It also discourages non criminals who have a propensity for making poor decisions.
Last edited:
Yeah.... it's certainly put a damper on Glock "switches." NOT. That comes with an automatic 10-year sentence. But the gang-bangers care not one whit.
Nope, laws only work on the good guys. Doesn’t slow the bad guys one iota.
Punishment.... Not even the death penalty deters crime.
- Joined
- Feb 3, 2023
- Messages
- 9,506
- Reaction score
- 11,077
- Points
- 168
Who cares about gang bangers. They mostly shoot other gang bangers.
Keeps the population in check.
Joe Average? He’s afraid to obtain a switch for his Glock. Those that aren’t? FAFO. Darwin Award candidates.
A long time ago, after completing a very rigorous training course that some did not pass, the instructor told those of us who did make it to be careful to not start thinking you are invincible. Because it can get you or the people you are protecting killed.
In a similar context, I believe there are some dim bulbs in the broader gun community who think they are immune from prosecution. They don't have any criminal intent. They just ignore the law. Like tax cheaters. It's unwise.
You can never be certain about flying under the radar. All it takes is some unforeseen circumstances for your transgression to be discovered. Maybe you are involved in a shooting incident. Or road rage. Your home is broken into or there's a fire. You are injured or ill in the home and police show up. Or somebody rats you out.
Anything can happen. You can go broke , maybe lose your job. Friends, maybe even your family or spouse turns on you. And for what? Bragging rights? Thinking you are clever? Fancying yourself as a rule breaker? It's all false bravado.
An acquaintance of mine who ran an armed security business similar to mine bragged openly to friends and colleagues about cooking his books and cheating on taxes, Also taking business out of state and operating without PI and/or armed security licenses in those states. Cheaters always get caught. He narrowly escaped federal prison. Lost everything, went broke, and can never get his license back. He cant get a job as a mall cop. And can never again buy or own a firearm.